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Old 03-11-2019, 10:07 PM   #1
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Firring Out Brick Fireplace


Probably not an uncommon scenario, but something I've never dealt with. Not many brick fireplaces where I cut my teeth.

Have a typical looking brick fireplace in a basement. Has a gas insert. Bricks all the way up through 1st and 2nd floor and roof.

Clients want new tile, and power and low voltage above a mantel.

Where do I start? Can I just fir this out with wood? Or are there heat issues? How should I detail around the insert?
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can you check with insert manufacturer for necessary clearances?

other than that you can likely fir it out.

what about lath & float or hardie type backer for the tile.

might solve the clearance issue around the insert.

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can you check with insert manufacturer for necessary clearances?

other than that you can likely fir it out.

what about lath & float or hardie type backer for the tile.

might solve the clearance issue around the insert.
I think it might be hard to find info. From a 90s remodel I think.

I could lath and float. Where does the wiring go though?

With hardie backer I still have wood firring that could be an issue with clearance, right?
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can't screw the backer to the brick?

groove a channel in the brick for you wires????
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can't screw the backer to the brick?

groove a channel in the brick for you wires????
I suppose I can. Like I said, I'm out of my element. Split face type brick so I might have to do some grinding and float it anyway.
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just to err on the side of caution i would run the low voltage in conduit & add a spare, just because. steel wiremold if it can be concealed. (not sure)

sounds fairly simple & straight forward no matter which way you go.
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I've used metal studs then Hardie.
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Most inserts from the 80s & 90s that I have seen allowed wood framing around the unit with a 1" gap, if yours has brick you can just chip away for aa box location and wire trough

Somewhere on the unit is the manufacturer name, the 90s were not that long ago. I just did one last year from 89 and the installation manual was available
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I usually use hat channel to fir (fur?) out brick chimneys.

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