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Old 02-03-2019, 09:57 AM   #1
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It seems like a lot of DIYers remodeling their old house get a lot of bad infirmation and bad advice.

I'll repair a lot of plaster damage before I tear all the plaster and lath off the walls. Getting plumbing, heating, and electric redone may be a lot faster if you demo certain walls or certain rooms, but it's pretty rare that that's the fastest and cheapest way to go for the whole house.

There also seems to be some idea that vinyl siding us way better than wood, steel, or aluminum siding. Tear all that stuff off, and take it to the dump.

These people must value their spare time at $0 an hour, and their spare money at pennies on the dollar.

In their defense, it's obvious they don't have a clue and are getting no advice or incompetent advice. I met a nice young married couple who were redoing their first house. It was costing them more money and more time than they expected. If I had a couple spare days at the time, I would have volunteered to go through their house, give them some tips, and show them how to patch and skim plaster.

Bad advice is bad enough, but everything looks fast, cheap, and easy on YouTube.
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Old 02-03-2019, 10:28 AM   #2
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Lots of times too, these people are doing upgrades to the house that make the house to expensive for the type of house or area, There for never getting the money back out when they go to sell.

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Well if they're going to the big box stores you know they're very likely getting incorrect advice. But what I see more than anything is inferior work but the HO thinks it's great, they just don't know quality and what it takes to get it.
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I've seen the quality issues in spades, as has probably everyone. If they paid someone to do it, they'd be complaint, but everyone's baby is beautiful....
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Some if the worst are ones that trust a good friend or relative that doesn't know anything, but knows everything.
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God Bless DIY.
God Bless Youtube.
God Bless HGTV.

The worse they phuck it up, the better we look.
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I blame HGTV. Everyone thinks they can remodel the kitchen, all the bathrooms, and put on an addition for $25,000.
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I blame HGTV. Everyone thinks they can remodel the kitchen, all the bathrooms, and put on an addition for $25,000.
In 2 weekends....
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In 2 weekends....
Why so long should be able to do that in one.
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Why so long should be able to do that in one.
To do it in one weekend would require skipping trips to Starbucks.
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Most of the above is true, however I've got a couple friends that are self taught handymen that do some really good work. One has built two complete houses, the other is a pretty amazing finish carpenter / craftsman.

There are DIY'ers at all levels. Can't hold it against a person for trying something new and trying to save a buck. Let them find out for themselves if they're cut out for it. I certainly wouldn't sit back, observe and hack on their work.
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To do it in one weekend would require skipping trips to Starbucks.
The sacrifices one has to make.
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Most of the above is true, however I've got a couple friends that are self taught handymen that do some really good work. One has built two complete houses, the other is a pretty amazing finish carpenter / craftsman.

There are DIY'ers at all levels. Can't hold it against a person for trying something new and trying to save a buck. Let them find out for themselves if they're cut out for it. I certainly wouldn't sit back, observe and hack on their work.
I wasn't holding it against them, but a bunch are making mistakes they can't afford just because they don't know, and they don't have good guidance.

I feel sorry for some of these people.

OTOH, I've given detailed instructions on how to install prehungs fast, easy, and almost foolproof only to have the person screw it up doing it a different way. No sympathy there.
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God Bless DIY.
God Bless Youtube.
God Bless HGTV.

The worse they phuck it up, the better we look.
Nah the potato is strong with that thinking.

The cognitive dissonance with many DYI'er soooo strong. Phucked up has become more normalized and acceptable, because they did it and have no clue it's forked, but still think it's a great job.

But then again many "professionals" have similar issues.
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This is not a new phenomena. I've seen it for years. The funny ones were really the "rathskellers" of the 60's and 70's now known as "finished lower levels".

The DIY basement bathrooms were the real screamer.
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This is not a new phenomena. I've seen it for years. The funny ones were really the "rathskellers" of the 60's and 70's now known as "finished lower levels".

The DIY basement bathrooms were the real screamer.
Jeez, some of my favorite watering holes back then were called rathskellers.
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I'm not even talking about the DIY eclectic styles you can find, if you want to call them that...

I'm talking about deciding to insulate an old house, so the best idea is to pull all the siding and throw that away, then pull all the boards off the exterior and throw those away. Then install batts.... Not that batts have a prayer if fitting the old stud cavities.

I've gone over the house, there is no way I would expose the structure, it's just going to balloon into structural repairs. Not to mention there is no problem with the siding....

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