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Old 04-30-2019, 08:13 PM   #21
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Update: I ended up with adding a curb opposite of valve wall and putting linear full width tileable drain at door. Recessed area like the drawing and approved by Wheat Ridge who are a total PITA to get permit.

Head guy is great front office gal has an attitude and don't dare ask her about permitting questions even though her job is Permit Technician. They have 1.5 star rating for good reason.

I was reading Schluter literature about drains at shower door entrance and they recommend the closed and or tileable drains only.

If KERDI-LINE is placed at shower entrance,
it is recommended that grate assembly A or
the covering support is chosen and that the
drainage openings span the maximum width
of the entrance to limit potential overflow;
secondary drainage (e.g., KERDI-DRAIN) may
be required in the drying area. page six https://sccpublic.s3-external-1.amaz...ta%20Sheet.pdf
The recommendation is there are a few of their drain profiles that will allow water to run along the openings and out to the main floor. The lineal shown below is a Nobel, there are no direct paths for water to flow over, I had to scallop the wall ends to prevent run over.

In another group we're discussing electrical or no electrician to hook up the electric floors, glad I don't have that problem. I've made hundreds of dollars fixing the heated floors CO electricians have connected.

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In another group we're discussing electrical or no electrician to hook up the electric floors, glad I don't have that problem. I've made hundreds of dollars fixing the heated floors CO electricians have connected.

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If the cabinet work slows up you can be an electrician instead.
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Seems that the thread has stalled or even ended (Kevin got his answer?) so Iím going to take it in a slightly different direction.

As many know, here in Colorado, we deal with different building department authorities in just about every county, city, town and even some neighborhoods. Tom mentioned Douglas County as having no clue, but the reality is that I donít think many of the various authorities have a clue... and it pisses me off!

Can we discuss what we believe to be the minimum requirements of a barrier free shower? I would simply like to get a feel for what you guys think gets passed.
Barrier free, not a wet room (this is another process)...

I use Schluter products so...

They now have a thin pan that helps this situation.

https://sccpublic.s3-external-1.amaz...20Brochure.pdf

I know TNT uses some ARC's.

If necessary, I remove the sheathing, trim and double joists.

Trim if needed, pan mortared in place, Schluter pans come with Kerdi installed on them.

I Ditra all bathroom floors, band the seams to waterproof them.

I seal the pan to the walls (Kerdi board) and Ditra floor with 7" Kerdi band instead of 5".

Drain is install to the pan per instructions.

Hot glue pieces of 2" tall Kerdi board to create a dam for the flood test.

Seal drain, flood test at least 24 hours.

If it held, drain, use DNA to dissolve the hot glue, remove dam.

When setting tile, I will set the first course of tile outside the pan canted to the pan.

Always install a wicking barrier.

My take on getting it right.

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If the cabinet work slows up you can be an electrician instead.
Probably couldn't pass the CO test.....

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Zoom on the picture, working with CO's finest electricians (the entire house is this way). I know this is the tile thread, had to fix the Ditra Heat floor they hooked up.

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Some people like them upside down...
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I've actually had a customer demand they be installed that way, because that's how they were in the commercial space he worked in. Sure, whatever...
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Some people like them upside down...
There is no right side up or upside down. It is not defined for residential in the NEC.

Take a better look, one ground up, other ground down. It this way through out the house with no rhyme or reason.

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I've actually had a customer demand they be installed that way, because that's how they were in the commercial space he worked in. Sure, whatever...
Must have been the same guys who don't give a sh!t as these guys.

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There is no right side up or upside down. It is not defined for residential in the NEC.

Take a better look, one ground up, other ground down. It this way through out the house with no rhyme or reason.

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I saw that but I guess my comment didn't confirm I did.

I have a friend who put them ground up because if the plug worked it's way out and something fell on it it would land on the ground.
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We put switched or half switched outlets ground up just as identification.

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