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Old 01-17-2008, 08:52 PM   #41
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It could be possible to build the header on the new double top plate were there are windows and openings below.


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Old 01-17-2008, 08:53 PM   #42
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I'll have to check the span strenth of the TJI's. I may have no choice but to build it above the existing ceiling and break up the TJI's with a double LVL.

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I was speaking of a center bearing wall.With 10' engineered joists at 22'.some support is needed.



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Surely the 2x6 ceiling joists aren't spanning 22'? There isn't a wall or beam in the middle?

Not one thing!

Correction: Every 3rd or forth joist there is a 2x4 hung from the rigde and nailed to the ceiling joist.
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go back a page and read my posts carefully again
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go back a page and read my posts carefully again
I guess were on the same page anyway! Sorry this thing is cruising along pretty fast!
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You could order clear span engineered roof trusses and put the entire ceiling load on the exterior walls

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I answered all those balloon frame no header in existing wall questions.

I guess I missed that post!

Your right, roof trusses would be a good call here AW.
There's a lot going on here,hard to soak up all the approaches.like Jason said,cruising pretty fast.
I guess it will come down to is the building dept acceptance.Hopefully he'll only have to submit one set of detailed plans.
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If the H/O can deal with the rough numbers I give them. The first stop will be the Codes Department so I don't waste to much time at the drawing board.

I do like the trusses very simple and very quick. Thanks all. I'll keep you posted.

Add: The best part about the trusses is they come with a stamp of approval from an engineer.
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If the H/O can deal with the rough numbers I give them. The first stop will be the Codes Department so I don't waste to much time at the drawing board.

I do like the trusses very simple and very quick. Thanks all. I'll keep you posted.

you can also order your trusses with the raised or hat ceiling already in them if you make the walls lower to match soffits and ridge with existing, that in itself will save labor and speed dry in.
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Hi I am new here but I first must agree with keeping the walls at 7' this as stated previously will give you the allowance needed to cut the ballon framing and build a new box and sister the existing 2x6 joists with 2x8 micro lams (or 2x8doug with a beam running the center of the kitchen flush with hardware).To keep the existing ridge line you are looking for. I also agree to do as much of the framing as possible prior to actually opening the roof up.Like was stated earlier(i am sorry for not using names but read all the threads and can't remember who said what)get it open and deck framed and sheathed then tarp off right. There should not be a drop of water.You should not have to disturb the ceiling below at all until the final phases of the rough wiring and plumbing are addressed then only minor patching will be needed.If you completely remove the existing ceiling joists then you will have to open walls to place supports to keep walls straight and plum.>As you will be remodeling the kitchen later I think you don't want to have to place nailers on the floor to tie your wall supports into.I guess you can do it from the outside but then you must nail,screw or lag into the existing siding.You can remove one at a time and replace with the larger lumber of your choice.I wish this job was in my neck of the woods as I love a challenge.Last but not least.You said they had 35k to spend.then you stated you think $100 per sq. ft....that is like 12k more than they have budjeted for the job.Just watch you don't get into a pinch and keep the final small.By the way we get around $135-$150 sq ft. here for that job.........Good luck
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you can also order your trusses with the raised or hat ceiling already in them if you make the walls lower to match soffits and ridge with existing, that in itself will save labor and speed dry in.
I was thinking that too. Fly 18 pcs up with a crane and I'm done framing! Well worth the cost of a small crane for a day

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