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Old 02-15-2007, 11:33 PM   #61
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Re: Who's Moving Up To Windows Vista?


I got a 17 in screen dell laptop coming with vista on it. I actually have done no research on vista and havn't the foggiest clue what new features it has.

Either way, i am excited about my new computer!
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:37 PM   #62
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I got a 17 in screen dell laptop coming with vista on it. I actually have done no research on vista and havn't the foggiest clue what new features it has.

Either way, i am excited about my new computer!
I got my new 17" HP with Vista on it on Monday and so far I'm loving it. It's the little things that are nice. Everything just flows better. It's not a nessesary upgrade but I'm really glad I have it.

On a side note which Dell did you get? The E1705 or the XPS? I got the HP but I'm not sure I'm keeping it because they gave me Windows Vista 64-bit which has some issues. It should have come with 32-bit Vista but after speaking with 17 tech support people at HP I think I give up.
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Cant say im upgrading until im forced. I have a lot of software that I dont need broken in order to pay M$ for a shiny 'new' os. And I have been using mac and pc's since i could talk, and for some reason I went with windows. Maybe it was the power quotient. Either way, a computer is just a tool to reach you goal, so im not completly biased.
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Dude PC's are for the losers who play Games. What a Joke! I think some people should not talk about the differences between a PC/MAC!

Ive ran a PC my whole life, built them, bought, and sold them! One year ago i converted. Life Got EASIER!

The biggest difference between a Mac and PC is the Operating system.
Find out for yourself if you want.
I can run any business with the software that is on a MAC.
I have OFFICE. big deal i barley use it.
Apple has programs that work better for Business.

As a contractor Time is precious so that is why i moved to a MAC. I dont worry about viruses. Screw McAfee and Norton, They made my PC run like Hell! I dont worry about crashes either. MAC's dont crash. If just these reasons are not enough to make you re-think your PC then im sorry. Why not make life easier

MAC vs PC is nothing like FORD vs CHEVY its more like
MAC(Lamborghini) vs PC(Chevy)

LATER
Im new here, so ill be nice about this, or as nice as possible.

Price
For the price, you get better deals using a pc. Flat out. Apple has pretty much made it impossible to build custom systems non from apple that save you money, and dont get me started on if you want to upgrade certain components.

Power.
Until RECENTLY, Macs were severly underpowered, hence the reason they COULDNT run games. They didnt have the horsepower. So when you make silly statements like 'PC's are for the losers who play Games.', it actually makes you sound a little ignorant on what a computer can do. In the intrest of full disclosure, I play a lot of games. But I also do a lot of blueprints, design layouts, spreadsheets, maps, web design, contracts, and presentations. Its nice that the Intel Core Duo came out for mac. But thats a recent development. And from what I hear, any software that comes from a 'pre-duo' timeframe has to be run on an emulator, which makes it a lot slower. So switching may involve purchasing all new software, assuming you dont have to just to get the mac version.

Usability.
Having been lucky enough to use macs and pcs my entire life, I would have to say this. A windows based system run smoother with a user who is informed about how their system works. A mac system is very linear and doesnt allow for getting in those innards as much. Plain and simply, use a mac if you dont know anything about a computer. You will have a far shorted learning curve. A pc requires a knowledge outside the context of just simple operations and is really for the more advanced user. That being said, I do find that macs tend to be perfect for AV editing. My pops does a lot of editing and I will say that his systems are freaking nice! Also about 5k... But dont let the learning curve of a windows system deter you. It not like you have to learn code. Just understand some basic ideas?

Software

You dont need office to run a buisness. To buy a more expensive platform and hardware just to run you 'better' office software (which is what by the way? Share the wealth!) is a bit silly as a contractor. You should be researching your needs, not just making blind assumption. Personally, I use Outlook for email/appointments/etc and Open Office 2.0 (free software for windows & mac) for all contracts and typewritten material. Its free and unless your a specialty contractor who for some reason needs DB access ala MS Access, it will work fine. I use quickbooks for accounting, but who doesnt? And im pretty sure thats availible on most systems. Another consideration is that since market penetration for mac isnt as high as the windows based systems, a lot of software come 2nd for mac. Not in all cases, and to try and pinpoint a segment where that happens is impossible. But it is also a consideration of mine.

Viruses
I currently dont even bothe keeping a AV suite installed on my tablet pc or desktop. Why? well because I actually understand how to prevent viruses and other damaging files off of my computer. Which goes back to being informed about your system. AV programs are merely bloat in most cases, and norton acts like a virus, i swear. I check every 6 months or so, but Its been a while since one has showed up. Also, and dont take my word for it, but viruses do exist for mac's, they are less prevalent because they arent as numerous. But they do exist, and while microsoft takes its time with patches, so does apple from what I understand.

So in the end,
Your conclusions are wrong. As a contractor, I cant imagine telling a fellow contractor to waste money on a mac when its clearly not the tool for the job. If your running a spiffy high end design studio, there might be a mac around. But there will be a linux rendering server not to far away to actually produce the renderings. Price point for a decent office pc is a lot better than that of mac. If you want to invest in a mac, you can still run windows via the mac program boot camp. But you will be paying extra for that. The question is, what is the use of the computer? A toy or a tool.

I would be more than happy if someone here could tell me im wrong in more terms than just 'What a Joke! I think some people should not talk about the differences between a PC/MAC!' This is rather unhelpfull IMO to anyone that comes by this thread because it doesnt provide any actuall reasons...Oh and I dont hate macs or anything, it just ruffles my feathers so to speak when I hear these blind comparisons when really, they are apples and oranges (no pun intended).

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Your funny, actually Windows kinda Blows Ive built plenty of PCs myself but just got tired of crashes, hunting down New Drivers to make it run better, viruses and buying new virus software every freaking year, Thats Gay. But i do admit that buildings PC's is fun and exciting. keep your PC.
Just trying to help, Guy.

I dont want apple to make lots of software. See Apple believes in making a few perfect software Apps, thats It! With Windows you get 1 million software Apps and none of them work right or they are missing something. Windows is just out to make a Dollar, Mac is out to make something that is Perfect and run Right!.

Apple has very few software applications compared with Microsoft, your right, but Your wrong, very wrong You Can Do Anything you want on a MAC, Run a business on it, Make another Napoleon Dynamite Movie, make a Word document, Whatever you want. Dont say stuff unless you know for a FACT. Just remember when you run the few Apple software Apps they are going to be perfect. I beg you to challenge them, Do a PC vs MAC side by side comparison.

Go to an Apple store near you and ask for a quick Demonstration. You will be amazed!!!

Last but not least If you are looking to buy a computer please just check out a Mac. Go TO This Link and just take 10min and read the whole page.
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I compare side by side all the time and I have yet to come across one mac book user that can flip his screen around and scribble notes down. And dont get me started on render times...I would still be waiting for some of my renders to finish, even on a core duo.

Please, give up nowEnjoy your mac and leave us advanced users alone.
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I love having someone else around who knows what he is talking about. Welcome to the site from another advanced computer user (mostly windows... and some linux) who understands the differance and also has not run anitvirus software because it in itself is a virus.
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Vista is 64 bit but right now there are few 64 bit programs out there. If you get it now you will be future proofing your pute. I have heard media center is very nice as well.

That being said, I am waiting till at least first service pack comes out.
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Vista is 64 bit but right now there are few 64 bit programs out there. If you get it now you will be future proofing your pute. I have heard media center is very nice as well.

That being said, I am waiting till at least first service pack comes out.
You can get XP in a 64 bit version. My dad has the 64 bit XP because one of his computers has 4GB ram.
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But if you are going to go buy a new operating system with 64 bit then you might as well buy the newest one because support will last longer and all new programs will be built with vista in mind. If you already have 64 bit xp then you might as well use it as long as you can.

Vista was supposed to have a brand new file sytem but I heard they scrapped it.
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Microsoft is trying to spit out operating systems faster and faster and force upgrades. I have winXP 64 on two of my machines. Damn if I'm upgrading any time soon.

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