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Old 02-21-2013, 10:43 AM   #1
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I may be interested in graduating from my old reliable cell phone to a smart phone.
I've had two year plans with verizon for a long time and have been happy with the service and coverage.
My first question: What are the differences I'll get with a smartphone that's gonna cost me $200 versus one that is free with a two-year sign-up?
I know nothing about smartphones.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:39 PM   #2
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Price of the phone isn't where they get you, it's the plan that hits hard.

But to answer your question, there's tons of good applications out there (many free) that can help you be more productive (i.e. calendar/ todo lists, note taking, file sharing, etc as well as photo sharing, which is a good marketing tool, scanner, flashlight, GPS, news, social media, and Internet browsing and even a contractor talk app)

Once you really delve into it, you'll wonder how you ever did without. Play with a lot of devices before deciding. I suggest either a droid platform device, or an Iphone. I would recommend steering clear of Blackberries, as they are severely lagging behind in functionality.

I have had Verizon plans for 5 years now and am pleased with the coverage and service as well.

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Right now, Verizon is giving away the Casio Commando. It is tough and has been a workhorse for me. It isn't the fastest, but it is a good construction site phone, especially for free.

The new one is coming out in a month or so. If you want to pay, I would wait for that one. I'm using my upgrade when it comes out.
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I use the Droid Charge and will be upgrading to the Galaxy SIII in another month when I'm due to reup. The differences between smartphones will not hinder you running a business in terms of functions you can use. However, an older, free smartphone will come with a much slower processor and an older operating system. It will probably be 3G, not 4G and might have other lagging specs, like little RAM, a smaller screen, weak camera, etc. I know, with me speed is everything. I look at my phone 50 times a day for 10-15 seconds at a time. Whenever an email alert "DROID" sound goes off, I head right too it. I wanna see what it is and get back to work. I have noticed a huge speed difference in loading PDF files. All my suppliers send me quotes and invoices in that form as well as many other PDF functions. I want it to load immediately, not 15 seconds later.

A quality camera is key for taking progress/finished photos on site. I've also used the flashlight app(through the camera flash) a half dozen times while crawling around in windowless basements and attics.

A 4G phone is a no brainer as well. First time, you're struggling for more than a minute to load a website off google you'll wanna chuck that thing out the window. I also use GPS constantly as well.

Like someone previously mentioned, once you switch, you'll wonder how you ever survived without one!
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Iphone and Droid phones will all have essentially the same functionality. Calendar, email, decent camera, flashlight app, free (or cheap) apps for figuring voltage drop or doing construction calculations. Iphone has more apps, but don't be swayed by that because there's plenty of good and bad stuff from both.

Reliability is a concern with some Droid models since it's a free market there is a lot of fragmentation. With the Iphone they're all the same. If you have a mac now then the answer is simple. If you have a PC it's tougher.

Definitely play with them in the store and see what deals they have when you sign a contract. Ask them what reliability is like for the Droid models you're looking at. I have an HTC G2 and have had luck with it.

Try the keyboard a lot on all of them. Mine has a fold out keyboard which is nice sometimes. Some have smaller screens and fat fingers can make for frustrating typing. I use Swype which allows you to swipe your finger along the keyboard on the touch screen and it figures out what word you want to type. Pretty neat. Voice recognition also works better than I thought on Droid phones, but I don't use it much. Not sure about iphone VR, though.
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Try the keyboard a lot on all of them. Mine has a fold out keyboard which is nice sometimes. Some have smaller screens and fat fingers can make for frustrating typing. I use Swype which allows you to swipe your finger along the keyboard on the touch screen and it figures out what word you want to type.
Thats a great point. At 6'4" with large mitts and I forgot how nice the larger screen was when I upgraded. Keyboard use should be one of your priorities. A small one or unresponsive one and you'll end up hating the phone.
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If your paying for the phone and its in the $200+ price ranges they will all be good phones.

You have 4 choices

Android-does loads right out the box.
Iphone-great phone for a tech newb as it keeps it dumbed down so even my grandma can use one
windows mobile-Great phones and some nice features but still not taking off that fast
BB- the new touch screen one coming out is a very nice phone. The older ones not so much
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Although sometimes used for personal use, it's still a business tool. You wouldn't buy a needed power tool at a deep discount if it simply doesn't make your life/business easier and more efficient.
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If you're a tech dummy get an iphone, if your somebody that likes to tinker and personalize your devices get an Android.

I had my 65 year old mother get an iPhone because she doesn't like to learn new things and the iphone is perfect for those people. They have it so locked down and dumbified that my 5 year old can use it.

Android however is for the people that don't mind getting a little involved and learning how to properly use it. It can do a LOT more for the same price and it will have a much bigger screen for those people with big hands.

Windows phones are still very new and are yet to be proven in the market.

Blackberry phones are dead to the world, they just don't know it yet.
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If you're a tech dummy get an iphone, if your somebody that likes to tinker and personalize your devices get an Android.

I had my 65 year old mother get an iPhone because she doesn't like to learn new things and the iphone is perfect for those people. They have it so locked down and dumbified that my 5 year old can use it.

Android however is for the people that don't mind getting a little involved and learning how to properly use it. It can do a LOT more for the same price and it will have a much bigger screen for those people with big hands.

Windows phones are still very new and are yet to be proven in the market.

Blackberry phones are dead to the world, they just don't know it yet.
Dennis you should see the new BB. very nice phone. I was reading some about it a few months back and it had some great features. May be too little too late though.
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Let me say that if you're not looking at vid's / YouTube, uploading pics to Facebook or other data hog programs all day consider http://www.straighttalk.com/wps/port...vZ0FBIS9nQSEh/

As said its the plan that can get you. Just do the math over a 2 year cycle vs a national carrier. I pay $48 tax incl / month for smart phone service - unlimited talk, text 200 mb data daily - 2 gb monthly. I use about half of that.

Why should I pay $100 - $130 per month for a plan I don't need. I bought a recon Galaxy S II for $280 outright. Have been doing this for about a year now and are very happy.

If you can handle some minimal tech challenges then ST is for you. They're help is pretty good and this forum can help a lot too: http://www.howardforums.com/forumdis...-Straight-Talk

This type of service is driving the market these days.
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Also - I knew nothing about smart phones other than all my friends were paying as I said above for service plans. I was paying $45 month with Verizon for my old flip phone.

You can www phone comparisons.

ST service "is" Verizon or AT&T depending on where you're at. I'm on AT&T.

You do need to learn a bit about GSM vs CDMA phones. Get he correct phone for service in your area if you buy from a reseller / web. The ST website will sell you the correct phone if you get it from them.

Also the Iphone 4s and 5 can do GSM or CDMA. Verizon = CDMA --- AT&T = GSM.

Addl - Also ST is 3G and HPSA which is 3G+. It will take a couple of years until 4G is on ST I believe.

Do you really need 4G right now ? 4G is like home broadband speeds - pretty neat but not a necessity for me.

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National carrier $125 mo. x 24 = $3000
ST $48 mo. x 24 = 1152 + $275 phone = $1427

Year 3 - Nat'l $125 x 12 = $1500
ST - $48 x 12 = $576
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I presently have 3 phones on my plan...1400 minutes per month, friends and family, yada, yada...

The other two...one is for a friend of my deceased Mom...older lady...basic phone
Sister...same deal...basic phone.

My monthly bill with taxes and the charge so Obama voters can get a free phone is about $121 per month. It will be an additional $30 adding a smart phone for just me. The other two will remain the same.

Good/Bad?
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Those basic phone are worth and can be on ST / ATT Go Phone for $32 mo. Even cheaper with some other brands Net 10, TracPhone, others.

That leaves you with about $80 - 90 per month for service. (others at $35 mo) The other phones will have to be actively managed / monthly plans if you leave Verizon / ATT.

The math is not quite as good with bundled plans but you can save.

Ask the question at Howard Forums if you have the interest - see what comes back ?

You can port you number to ST at no charge - any and all. True with the other off brands too. Its the same service towers. Believe me it is.
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I presently have 3 phones on my plan...1400 minutes per month, friends and family, yada, yada...

The other two...one is for a friend of my deceased Mom...older lady...basic phone
Sister...same deal...basic phone.

My monthly bill with taxes and the charge so Obama voters can get a free phone is about $121 per month. It will be an additional $30 adding a smart phone for just me. The other two will remain the same.

Good/Bad?
I found out last night go with the share everything plan. Saved me 30 bucks and i got more data and unlimited minutes.
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I presently have 3 phones on my plan...1400 minutes per month, friends and family, yada, yada...

The other two...one is for a friend of my deceased Mom...older lady...basic phone
Sister...same deal...basic phone.

My monthly bill with taxes and the charge so Obama voters can get a free phone is about $121 per month. It will be an additional $30 adding a smart phone for just me. The other two will remain the same.

Good/Bad?
VERY good, I pay $210 mo (75 ea) for 3 unlimited everything top tier phones on AT&T with
4G LTE.
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Dennis you should see the new BB. very nice phone. I was reading some about it a few months back and it had some great features. May be too little too late though.
Too little too late IMO. They should have done it 3-4 years ago while they had the momentum. Now they'll have to start all over with a 2% market share.
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Those basic phone are worth and can be on ST / ATT Go Phone for $32 mo. Even cheaper with some other brands Net 10, TracPhone, others.

That leaves you with about $80 - 90 per month for service. (others at $35 mo) The other phones will have to be actively managed / monthly plans if you leave Verizon / ATT.

The math is not quite as good with bundled plans but you can save.

Ask the question at Howard Forums if you have the interest - see what comes back ?

You can port you number to ST at no charge - any and all. True with the other off brands too. Its the same service towers. Believe me it is.
If you want a pay as you go plan you can't beat Ting. you only pay for what you use. Take a look and compare.
https://ting.com/
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