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Old 01-04-2009, 02:25 AM   #61
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Yes. It does.

But my machine is not an integral part of my business. Although I would hate to do the books w/o it.

And I can use mrs. cc's machine for a week or so if need be.

Anyway....


I have a system driver an utilities disk. i ran that. Dagnostics said all is A-OK. When I exited, it got some weird screen and said i/o something or other...can't load windows. I thought...OK...Judgement Day has arrived.

But there was some startup repair oprion that I had not seen before.

It told me it might take over an hour and may have to restart several times. I was NOT looking forward to this.

But I let it do it's thing. It ran for about twenty minutes, then said something about OK, gonna reboot now but if everythongisn't fixed you gonne have to run and reboot agin.

About this time, I'm thinking OK this is number one of about 327, 928 attempts at restarting.

It restarted fine.

I'm thinking it's too good to be true, so I run chkdsk agian.

The 120+ corrupt files and orphaned files?

GONE!!!!!

But windows still won't update. I decide to try system restore, which wasn't working prior.

Acoording to Windows update log, last update was 10/9 so I had that as ref point for when things went fubar. My oldest available restore point was 10/15, so I chose that.

AND IT WORKED!!

My FF browser was in full fubar mode form that big "burp" I mentioned earlier. I updated FF and put my extensions back. Bookmarks were back.

So all seems to be well inchainsawcharliecomputer land.

BUT...

I'm a glutton for punishment. So tomorrow, as the Eagles are wiping the field with the Vikings, I'll be wiping my HD with a fresh install.

Thanks again guys. I did learn some computery stuff in here tonight.
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  1. You've already paid for that Total Protection Plan and it's still valid...
...You paid for it, use it. Make 'em earn their money. Hell, if I had such a plan I'd try to get them to rotate the tires on my truck if I could get away with it.

Good luck with it...
I've dealt with them before when the monitor got funky after just ten days. Reinstalling is definitely the easier option as opposed to trying to explain my problems to Habib.

It's the complete care and accidental damage plan. I have it marked on my calendar already for two months before the plan expires to "make sure I don't leave the computer on top of my truck as i'm leaving a job site".
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...if you're not savvy enough to fix your own problems, the extended warranties are the way to go. With all due respect, if you can't pinpoint and repair corrupt files, that speaks in volumes -- maintaining that protection plan would be a good idea and a wise investment...
I'll be the first to admit, when it comes to computers, I am a dumbass of the highest magnitude. I can swap parts out...drives, memory...I can use quickbooks and excel, and some basic photo editing...


But tech support/diagnostics or software issues? I'd have a better chance at reconciling string theory with quantum physics.

But still...I can get a new computer these days for less money than I spent on the extended care plan.

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That, my friend, is an understatement.I'm thinking it may have been a botched firefox update.

I use Speed Dial for a home page, and it was acting funky.much like it did before all these problems.

It said i had v 3.0.5, but when I click check for updates, it said and update-3.0.5 was available.

I updated, and speed dial seems to be back to it' normal self.

Also, I had been having minor issues with outlook. They seem to be gone now too.

Everything seems to be in order and running as it did before all this funkiness started.
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Except my virus scan, which is scheduled torun every Friday.

It's running now.
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Now that I think about it...FF has done that to me before...glitches at updates, and just reverting itself to some weird status where features would disappear. Most notably, was the close tab btton. Ir seems to like to go away every now and then, and I have to reinstall it.

Not very often though. And updating seemed to fix it, with the exception of going from FF2 to FF 3. I had to uninstall then reinstall FF to get it working.
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Now that I think about it...FF has done that to me before...glitches at updates, and just reverting itself to some weird status.

Not very often though. And updating seemed to fix it, with the exception of going from FF2 to FF 3. I had to uninstall then reinstall FF to get it working.

Whence reinstalling FF3 or 2, one must backup the "Bookmarks" and delete the Prefetch or it WILL revert to the old sheet!
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Well I never did anything with prefetch, so maybe that was it.
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Well I never did anything with prefetch, so maybe that was it.

Just do a search (all files and folders) with the keyword Mozilla. Then do another with the keyword Firefox.

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I had some adware crapola on mine once and could not get rid of it (xp pro days)-it was some nasty stuff that attached deep into the registry. when I took the plunge and rebuilt from the ground up, a new harddrive was in order. If you're doing a restore/backup from an infected disk, who is to say the infected files won't transfer back in?

regarding checkdisk problems, your HD could be crapping out, which could be the issue. I once had a problem where running chkdsk would repair the problem, then after some time another issue would occur, then they became more frequent. Those were hitachi sata disks-both of which had the same problem. if you're going w/ new HD's (why wouldn't you-cost versus time), a brand new build is a good time to speed up the system by getting rid of extra stuff you haven't used in years.
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So many of us use computors every day. Providing it works as intended.

To me, a computor is like a woman in a lot of ways;
Both can be and are great in order to enjoy life more
Both seem to be simple to understand, within reason in every day life
Both, providing we operate with common sense, can & does make our life better.
Both, if handled with care will be with us for a long time

Both, when we screw up, dn/ld wrong files, (virus, trojan, ect), call her the wrong name, ect

We find out both have so much more inside than we ever could have imagined & both are so much more complicated than we ever could have imagined.

The real difference is, one you can simply control/alt/delete, (or drop off at the shop or just buy another one)
The other, you have to, run/hide/spend (run before she beats the chit outta you & hide for a few weeks & spend so much in peace offerings)

But in the end, life is good.

My desk top was acting all kinds of crazy like Charlie's was.
Always telling to chkdsk, would be running then for no reason, reboot & chkdsk then start up, work for awhile then go thu the reboot motion again, until one day, I just said nuff, took it in. (I have 4 other putors, no biggie, but this desk top has so many programs on it I don;t want to loose)
I droped it off at the shop to get repaired. And it was a dang trojan I picked up when I dn/lded the weather channel to my desktop. That is the 2nd time I have dn/lded that weather channel, (official site) for my desktop & twice I have picked up that trojan. (was like 5 or 6 years apart) When I dn/lded it again recently I know ther was a reason why I got rid of it last time, jsut could not remember, until my virus protection picked it up. I thought virus protection had taken care of it but hadn't. Each time I email weather channel I nver get a response back.
All working well again. No more weather channel again
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Hmmm....I have a Hitachi sata in this machine. Everything seems to be back to normal now, si I'll wait and see what happens.

Burby-was that actually The Weather Channel you got something from, or Weatherbug? I had those issues with Weatherbug. Virus program considered it a trojan. I think because it transmits data back to Weatherbug, for them to use publicly.

I like weatherbug in that you can see different things from practically everywhere, but if it's just local wether you are concerned with, Accuweather has a great desktop feature that will give you alll the local info, complete with alerts.
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I've dealt with them before when the monitor got funky after just ten days. Reinstalling is definitely the easier option as opposed to trying to explain my problems to Habib.

It's the complete care and accidental damage plan. I have it marked on my calendar already for two months before the plan expires to "make sure I don't leave the computer on top of my truck as i'm leaving a job site".
I hear ya man... see, part of the problem is that they charge you the equivalent of a car downpayment to get the extended coverage but they don't do the work. I forgot to mention that the way you get around the "Support Headache" is to take full name and ID # from every person you speak to on the phone (I personally keep meticulous phone notes) and immediately demand to speak to their manager if you don't get a satisfactory response within the first 5 minutes of any given conversation. By playing it like this, the minute you get fed up with the static you can draft a quick letter and begin faxing it to THEIR superiors and threaten to go all the way up the chain to the Board of Directors. 9 times out of 10 they'll scramble to give you exactly what you want just to shut you up because they can't control how you use their name in the context of your complaint letter.
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Hmmm....I have a Hitachi sata in this machine. Everything seems to be back to normal now, si I'll wait and see what happens.

Burby-was that actually The Weather Channel you got something from, or Weatherbug? I had those issues with Weatherbug. Virus program considered it a trojan. I think because it transmits data back to Weatherbug, for them to use publicly.

I like weatherbug in that you can see different things from practically everywhere, but if it's just local wether you are concerned with, Accuweather has a great desktop feature that will give you alll the local info, complete with alerts.
yes weatherbug is considered a Trojan because if i recall it sends out browsing history, I avoid tool bars and search bars because many of them do the same thing. Same thing with peer to peer network file sharing software modified by third party distributers. It would have been easy to tell you to just send your machine back to Dell because you are already covered by a warranty. but then, what would you have learned? The first time me and my first wife bought a $2000 gateway desktop 486 dx 250 back in the mid nineties we didn't even turn it on for the first two weeks because we were afraid we would break it.. Then we got a BBS account and didn't even realize we weren't on the internet. we were just dialing into a local BBS and needed their proprietary software (worldgroup) to then connect to the www and browse with a primitive mosaic browser that was packaged with the desktop, This was with windows 3.1, Search engines were many and cumbersome back then and rarely returned results significant to the search query because the WWW was so new. It was more chat oriented then and we spent a lot of time chatting via the BBS and what was known then as IRC Relay chat to troubleshoot PC problems. It seemed many I met had encountered the same software problems i had. Afterward I did what is now called "pay it forward" and helped many people online, many times waiting for them to reboot and return to share their results, I also discovered our BBS newsgroup service which back then wasnt as clogged with spam.. Also a local cop on our BBS turned me onto a then new avatar based internet chat program called Worlds Chat Gold where hundreds of us around the globe (most from the US, UK, and Canada though) hung out in many rooms and levels of a virtual space station and even hovered in space through a hacked place mark. Through six pods attached to the spider like arms of the space station we teleported to six vastly different and themed worlds. and we shared hacks and traded avatars we wore to our avatar directory. since avatars were called up from a local directory on your machine. if you didn't possess that persons personal avatar file, all you would see was a wooden marionette. so more helping and troubleshooting and sharing. By then we were on the computer almost full time to the point of me neglecting my business. I just HAD to get another PC and an additional phone line. So i bought another gateway this time used for a bit over 700 bucks. a 486 p4d66 and with many floppy's transferred a lot of software off my then wifes machine. But around that time we got a free version of Netscape (you had to buy IE and some versions of Netscape back then) I kept that computer on my enclosed front porch home office along with a coffee pot. Big mistake. Some times i would spend 24 hours straight on it. I remember one new years eve spending the time celebrating new years on a bunch of different time zones on Worlds Chat, along with PowWow which you could trade files on, then Mirabilis ICQ. I met my current wife on that 486 and we have been together now over 11 years. I have built four of the six computers we have now, but i have forgotten much of what I learned and the computer i am typing on is obsolete by todays standards as it was built in 2002 and never reformatted since using a pre release free version of XP pro no longer supported. For me to build another one i would have to research all the newest processors and hardware all over again. as i haven't stayed on top of it. And for the first time i would have to BUY an operating system. My PC MUST have a digital all in one graphics w/TV tuner. it MUST have a 5.1 surround sound card. And i refuse to buy a PC which has it's back up OS on a hidden partition (no CD). Search engines hanve come a long way of course. If you have an error you can copy down the error verbatim and using google find a solution in nanoseconds. I don't even bother to use my computer diagnostic browser bookmarks anymore because its faster to google the troubleshooting tips.
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yes weatherbug is considered a Trojan because if i recall it sends out browsing history, I avoid tool bars and search bars because many of them do the same thing. Same thing with peer to peer network file sharing software modified by third party distributers. It would have been easy to tell you to just send your machine back to Dell because you are already covered by a warranty. but then, what would you have learned? ...snip...
On one hand I completely agree with you regarding the educational aspect of troubleshooting a computer problem yourself and finding the solution.

On the other hand, especially from a business perspective, it becomes a strictly money thing: how much is your time worth per hour versus how long it might take to fix the problem yourself versus how much down time are you looking at?

I've been troubleshooting and fixing computers since I was 11 with the Applie ][+ (circa 1981), the only aspect of my career disciplines that goes back further than Graphic Design. There's merit and reward to roughing it on your own because sooner or later you'll find solutions that aren't in the books.

In Charlie's case, he was faced with "Corrupt files". That alone is about as vague a symptom as telling a doctor that you have a bad headache. With the average PC running Windows there are somewhere between 1500 and 2000 files in use just by the OS and the file system itself can handle somewhere over 4 billion files. It's like identifying evidence of credit card fraud and when asked for details you're only able to say "the problem is coming from somewhere in Russia".

Everyone had some advice to share and, quite candidly, for as correct as most of it was, the same amount of it was wrong simply because for every computer problem there's only one solution but may be several ways to get there.

When in doubt, hire a professional -- the same thing we contractors are usually thinking or saying when we encounter clueless homeowners who have done everything short of screwing up a cup of coffee when trying to finish their DIY projects and finally cave in and call someone who knows.

Learning is great, yeah, but if it cuts into business sometimes it's an unnecessary expense.

Just my half-a-nickel...
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I started with an A II E, 64 K of RAM. Now THAT was power!!!

Gave it up a few years later when I got bored with the limitations. Picked up Computing again in 2005. Missed a BOAT LOAD of experience in the in between years!
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Hmmm....I have a Hitachi sata in this machine. Everything seems to be back to normal now, si I'll wait and see what happens.

Burby-was that actually The Weather Channel you got something from, or Weatherbug? I had those issues with Weatherbug. Virus program considered it a trojan. I think because it transmits data back to Weatherbug, for them to use publicly.

I like weatherbug in that you can see different things from practically everywhere, but if it's just local wether you are concerned with, Accuweather has a great desktop feature that will give you alll the local info, complete with alerts.
Yeah, it was from the actual "Weather Channel" home page itself, desktop weather or something like that. I use a weather bug from the local news station & have never had a problem, it just has to much for what I use & or need. Accu-weather is what i have been using since, I can list the needed cities & no probs as well.
About, I dunno, 8 or so years ago, I went to the weather channel hom epage & dn/lded their desktop thingie & sure nuff as soon as it finished dn/lding, virus protection picked up a trojan. Then I took the time to make sure it was taken care of and later emailed them, from their home page again, never got a reply.
This last time, same thing, with exception to making sure my virus protection took the proper care of it.
When I brought my putor to the shop to fixed, the guy said it had a trojan on it, all better now. but when I mentioned the weather channel home page, he said I wasn;t the only one who got one there. They themself had emailed The weather channel and didn;t get a reply as well.
Just one of them things.
But yeah accu-weather is a great site & more accuracy than local, hahaha.
With todays technology, they can get right down to the street at that minute to say what is going on.. I can look outside & do that as well, I want to know what tomorrow & next few days are gonna do.. That is why I watch the weather.
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WeatherThug is more like it!!

http://www.pchell.com/support/weatherbug.shtml!


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...earch&aq=f&oq=

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