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Old 04-25-2019, 10:01 PM   #1
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New phone sucks. I leave it in the truck in the console or under the seat when I go in somewhere. I'm not tethered to it old fashioned I guess.

Anyway whenever I leave and am miles away phones asks "How did you like Texas Roadhouse?" or "How did you like Home Depot?"

How the **** does the phone know if I have location turned off?....answer I think is the apps which have "permissions" No granted I don't load my phone with apps especially since I now know and have read they transfer information.

But try overriding Google on your phone it's all most impossible. I slid the questions to the side but was there a way to answer? Yeah ***** my food was delicious....now quit ******* following Me
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Do these businesses send info to my phone while I'm in there?

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New phone sucks. I leave it in the truck in the console or under the seat when I go in somewhere. I'm not tethered to it old fashioned I guess.

Anyway whenever I leave and am miles away phones asks "How did you like Texas Roadhouse?" or "How did you like Home Depot?"

How the **** does the phone know if I have location turned off?....answer I think is the apps which have "permissions" No granted I don't load my phone with apps especially since I now know and have read they transfer information.

But try overriding Google on your phone it's all most impossible. I slid the questions to the side but was there a way to answer? Yeah ***** my food was delicious....now quit ******* following Me
I'm a tech moron. Long story short I visited a place to consider buying carpet from them and wanted to check reviews, and google knew I was there that day. I clicked a link and found out that every single drive in the last few years was documented on google maps. I thought there was a way to turn that off, but didn't bother because I really didn't care. But with your post I'm finding out that even if you want to go off the radar you cant.

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Classic case of using a nerd device without being willing to get yer nerd on. Dig into the settings; you only have to put up with that stuff if you wallow along with plug & play.
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Ron, just turn off location services.
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I'm going to do a couple of little experiments. First I'll leave it in the truck as always go to a different well known place and put the phone in "Airplane Mode"

I'll repeat the experiment somewhere else and turn the phone completely Off
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Ron, just turn off location services.
Not sure this works. I've found multiple holes where location can be pinpointed....Each and every app has "permissions" You have to deny those permissions to every app including messaging and phone. Then your phone won't work
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Ron, just turn off location services.
Thanks J. I don't care to go anywhere I'm not supposed to so I'm not concerned at all. I'm interested in following Irish's experiment though.

Not to have a tinfoil hat, but also curious since I've read that just having an automatic toll reader "pings" from more than just the toll collection points, rather it can also track your location via receivers everywhere even far away from toll roads.

Only curious if you have a handle on those things too.
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Thanks J. I don't care to go anywhere I'm not supposed to so I'm not concerned at all. I'm interested in following Irish's experiment though.

Not to have a tinfoil hat, but also curious since I've read that just having an automatic toll reader "pings" from more than just the toll collection points, rather it can also track your location via receivers everywhere even far away from toll roads.

Only curious if you have a handle on those things too.
I have a couple of those Garmins. I keep one in an antique truck I have since the speedometer is broken. Amazing it not only knows where I am but how fast I'm going
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Toll readers are just readers. They can be set up anywhere.

No matter what you do with location services, it will turn on If you dual 911.

Even with Wi-Fi off, android phones may be visible to nearby hotspots.
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Toll readers are just readers. They can be set up anywhere.

No matter what you do with location services, it will turn on If you dual 911.

Even with Wi-Fi off, android phones may be visible to nearby hotspots.
Yes this too. If you go to update apps it will automatically search for wi-fi w/o a prompt. If you're at a hot spot it's fully automatic
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Every image you have on your android is stored on google. They say only you can see these images.........yeah right

Which brings me to the camera or cameras. They are not just on your phone. They're everywhere and if one captures your image who is to say it's not uploaded into some data base somewhere.

For a couple of years I was wondering what all these diamond shaped antennas were doing all over the urban area. Took me a while to find out it's a private network for law enforcement and it's connected to cameras everywhere. Each one of these cameras has an network protocol. They punch in the address and can watch in real time
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I've heard the only way to truly turn these devices off is to remove the battery. Could it be why more and more of them are being made with non-removable batteries?
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Ron, just turn off location services.
You have to go online to your google account, yes you have one whether you know it or not if you own and registered your Android phone. In there you'll find lots of interesting things that you can turn off. I have everything turned off. One day it'll bite me in the azz when the phone gets stolen and I want to disable it. But that's about the only thing I'd miss.

Turn off the locations service, make sure the high accuracy service is off too. Everytime I turn on my location service to use my GPS it asks me two questions, the second one is it asking to turn on the high accuracy GPS which uses WiFi and Phone Triangulation to get a more accurate position. I don't need it to be that accurate and once you turn it on you have to go into the location services area to turn it off, it won't automatically do so when you turn off the GPS or the Location.

Keep your WiFi off all the time unless you are currently using it.

Keep your Data off all the time unless you are currently using it.

Your phone is constantly pinging the cell tower to let it know where you are, you can't turn that off. Most phones no longer physically turn off, they are always powered on. And now most phones can't have their batteries removed so you can't actually turn them off.

They have a Faraday bag you can put your phone into to block all incoming and outgoing signals. This renders your phone off. They say putting your phone in a microwave will do the same thing (don't turn it on)

I go to the google account site every once in a while to see if things have changed and there is no recorded data on me that they show there. They lie. No matter what you do they are recording everything, even when you opt out. They lie.

If you want to use a smart phone get use to it. Otherwise, don't own or carry one.
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I'll repeat the experiment somewhere else and turn the phone completely Off
If it's a newer phone off is not off. Pulling the battery is the only way to guarantee off. And most likely you can't do that.
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I have a couple of those Garmins. I keep one in an antique truck I have since the speedometer is broken. Amazing it not only knows where I am but how fast I'm going
That is a passive device. It only reads the satellite signals and translates them. Some fancier ones have a memory that keeps track of where you went, a truckers GPS will have this. Most do not.

It doesn't transmit to a mothership so you are safe with one of those.
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Yes this too. If you go to update apps it will automatically search for wi-fi w/o a prompt. If you're at a hot spot it's fully automatic
You can turn that off.
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I've heard the only way to truly turn these devices off is to remove the battery. Could it be why more and more of them are being made with non-removable batteries?
The reasoning is weird shaped batteries for odd shaped phones and they need to bury the battery deep inside, and IP65 waterproofness.

Both are BS excuses and yes, that's why the batteries aren't removable and why your phone can never truly be off.

You have two cameras which you can block, but the microphone is something that can't effectively be blocked. They can always listen to you if they want.
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On the plus side, with nothing but political downside for spying on candidates these days, the NSA wants to end part if the domestic surveillance intercepts.
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I am always amazed at the technology, and where it is taking us, good or bad.

My wife and I went shopping for flooring for the spec homes we are building...and the next day, I was flooded with coupons and offers, plus adds for other stores....and this was from being in Lumber Liquidators and a few other places.

Recently, I watched "The Pacific" on Amazon Prime, and picked up my phone and searched "Guadalcanal" and the "Caroline Islands" to see if there was any tourism there....and presto, for a month I was getting adds for vacations in that area.

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