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Old 09-26-2014, 02:07 PM   #41
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I think that's the problem right there. The state says one thing, the feds another. Sounds like you could get caught in a legal meat grinder and employers weren't a top consideration.
Nope, doesn't matter what the states say it will still be illegal as long as the feds say so. Period! This isn't debatable nor is it unclear. I can ban all illegal drugs and people on them while on my job site. Meaning if I fire someone for using while working or even being intoxicated on pot it's absolutely within the law to do so, even if the US attorney general says he won't prosecute, I can use federal law to fire them.
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Old 09-26-2014, 02:08 PM   #42
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I am protected by federal law as much as I'm bound by federal law.
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Nope, doesn't matter what the states say it will still be illegal as long as the feds say so. Period! This isn't debatable nor is it unclear. I can ban all illegal drugs and people on them while on my job site. Meaning if I fire someone for using while working or even being intoxicated on pot it's absolutely within the law to do so, even if the US attorney general says he won't prosecute, I can use federal law to fire them.
The feds won't prosecute and the state says it's legal. We have pot shops all over the place here so apparently it isn't so clear.
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The feds won't prosecute and the state says it's legal. We have pot shops all over the place here so apparently it isn't so clear.
No its clearly illegal. Them not prosecuting doesn't change that.
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I can fire you using federal law as my authority, and the states have to allow it.
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hey knuckles this was supposed to be an informative thread not another reefer madness episode from you and walmart.

wow...
Thanks for the info.....

Reefer madness, jesus and people bitchn' this thread has it all.

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You can use the federal laws as examples all you want but a man with wide eyes and an open mind can see the federal law tides a changing. Everything from legal weed to gay marriage. The fed has over stepped it's legal (by the constitution) hand on many matters and states one by one are fighting these imposed federal laws. The only reason that states cave to the fed on certain items/issues is the federal tax dollars that the states get from the fed. With many states realizing their GDP, on their resources is a large percentage of the entire feds GDP these things will change in time. Everything is political and everything in politics takes time.

That being said, I don't have an issue with a pot smoker. More with a drunk than a smoker or pot smoker. Hey, it is construction work. If you look at the elders, many are reformed, users or abusers of some life taker, maker/chaser. Some grow up, some don't.

If they pass the pee test gate and are good workers, I could leave the judging to God and the job leadership to me or my foreman.
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You can use the federal laws as examples all you want but a man with wide eyes and an open mind can see the federal law tides a changing. Everything from legal weed to gay marriage. The fed has over stepped it's legal (by the constitution) hand on many matters and states one by one are fighting these imposed federal laws. The only reason that states cave to the fed on certain items/issues is the federal tax dollars that the states get from the fed. With many states realizing their GDP, on their resources is a large percentage of the entire feds GDP these things will change in time. Everything is political and everything in politics takes time.

That being said, I don't have an issue with a pot smoker. More with a drunk than a smoker or pot smoker. Hey, it is construction work. If you look at the elders, many are reformed, users or abusers of some life taker, maker/chaser. Some grow up, some don't.

If they pass the pee test gate and are good workers, I could leave the judging to God and the job leadership to me or my foreman.
Point taken, but until those laws are changed at the Federal level, I get to fire you for using or being intoxicated while on one of my jobs, regardless if it's for medical or not and without consequence from the state level.
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Agreed, but you ain't firing me...I work for myself. Also, I am not firing my stoner, he is as reliable as the sun rise and set. Plus, he is smart. 100 steps ahead of pack.

Like I said, I'm not a judge just a dirt bag old concrete carpenter, that knows talent. If he wants to take a puff after work, go right ahead. He knows the risks. He is a grown man, I'm not going to preach.
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Agreed, but you ain't firing me...I work for myself. Also, I am not firing my stoner, he is as reliable as the sun rise and set. Plus, he is smart. 100 steps ahead of pack.

Like I said, I'm not a judge just a dirt bag old concrete carpenter, that knows talent. If he wants to take a puff after work, go right ahead. He knows the risks. He is a grown man, I'm not going to preach.
My insurance wouldn't like it very much if I allowed someone intoxicated to work and then he got hurt. It's one thing to not know he's high it's a whole other thing to know it and approve of it. I certainly wouldn't be putting that out on an open forum, but that's the nice thing about self employment we get to pick the amount of liability we want to take on. I don't know if I would lie about it either, that's a felony in this state.
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LOL, taking a piss in a bush in my front yard is a felony too. Open forum or court of law, don't matter. My jobs they pee in a cup. That is good enough for Sunoco, Valero or any of the other contracts I have, it's good enough for me. You cut your finger with a razor knife on my jobs they piss test you. You fail, your done. Everyone knows it, some gamble, some don't.

As for my insurance man, he's to worried about our group becoming self insured. No issues out of him.
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LOL, taking a piss in a bush in my front yard is a felony too. Open forum or court of law, don't matter. My jobs they pee in a cup. That is good enough for Sunoco, Valero or any of the other contracts I have, it's good enough for me. You cut your finger with a razor knife on my jobs they piss test you. You fail, your done. Everyone knows it, some gamble, some don't.

As for my insurance man, he's to worried about our group becoming self insured. No issues out of him.
I was only speaking for myself
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Also if peeing in a Bush was a felony, guess what, I wouldn't pee in a Bush
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just a heads up for those in states that have medicinal and recreational marijuana as it pertains to employees and employers rights.

back on topic, in colorado I"m pretty sure you can be fired for using weed before and at work There is a court case that is happening right now or it just finished up where a employee is suing his employer for being fired because of his weed use, I have not followed the case so I"m not sure what happened, but the case may settle things as it is appealed over and over

not only does that state and federal gov't have a say
but your ins. company has a say
and the employer has a say with company policy
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If you not planning to distribute, who cares what the law is, just keep on puffin

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