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Old 01-13-2013, 08:32 PM   #81
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Only about 15% of this country's construction workforce is union. Much less in southern states like yours. Unemployment rate in this country for construction workers is around 13.5%. Just by the fact that the percentage of unionized construction workers is so low in TX, who do you think has the most people on government assistance, union or non union??

TX is actually one of the worst states to be in construction as an employee. The flood of illegal workers. Unions do what they can to combat that. Keeping the work in American hands. TX also does not require WC insurance, who picks up the tab for workers hurt if there is not a WC policy in place? Taxpayers. There are also studies that show almost half of all construction workers in TX live below the state poverty level. Which in TX is by far mostly non union guys.


I have WC, my hands are covered. My men also make a good wage, get paid holidays and 5 days vacation, as well as a company vehicle to use at work. None are on assistance. We work all year. I may be the exception but I dont have my hand out to anyone for anything, I take care of me and mine.

As far as a bad place to work? I dont think so. I always made a living when working for others. As far as you assuming that I would ask the tax payers to pay my medical bills when I didnt have insurance, wrong again. I paid my medical bills. Worst were broken bones, I paid within a year.

My brothers insurance doesnt cover maternity, he is paying $6,000 before the kid is born on those horrible wages he is paid competing against illegal aliens.

I have worked here my whole life, competing against illegals is like competing against a hack, I dont do it and never have, (other than being a ditch digger when I started out) I educated my self in my trade and no one ever said "well I only pay julio $10 an hour".
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Old 01-14-2013, 02:02 AM   #82
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All I can say is that when I was part of a union, I did not enjoy it. Good luck with your findings.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:53 AM   #83
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Corporate wellfare? Seriously? I work for the haves. Unions are run by thugs who have no place in the modern workforce.

As for cheering for our country? The direction this country is going is disgusting. Im sick to death that the have nots as you call them (moochers) out number the producers. Im not a genius but its pretty simple economics that china cannot loan us enough money to bail out all the single mothers with 14 kids and 14 baby dadies and no plan on getting a job.

Its bs and the unions are at the heart of the problem. They did a great service at one point in history. That point is over and I pray to god so are the unions.

Teachers unions are my least favorite.

A after thought of Chris' statement. There are other groups who are blood in blood out for life, they are called gangs..
What do you need some examples of corporate welfare? You probably do not even have to leave your own town to find corporations that are on the government dole. Listen I said already once that you have to be nuts to think that either side of the aisle in Washington has your best interest in mind if you are a middle class citizen. I am not defending Democrats in any way. But YOU are defending the idiots who give away TRILLIONS of dollars of taxpayer money to corporations. They are more deserving then "the single mothers with 14 kids and 14 baby dadies and no plan on getting a job."? NEITHER one should be able to drain taxpayer funds!!

What is it that you think the unions of the past did that was a great service? Helped flourish a strong middle class? Which now that unions are losing strength is disappearing. Fought for and won may workplace safety rules? Which now are enforced with taxpayer money, instead of the industry that those laws govern. Gave men more time with their families? How many threads are on this site with guys bragging about working 12 hour days? Do you think they actually want to work 12 hour days, or is more to save face because in order to provide for their family it takes 12 hour days?
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I have WC, my hands are covered. My men also make a good wage, get paid holidays and 5 days vacation, as well as a company vehicle to use at work. None are on assistance. We work all year. I may be the exception but I dont have my hand out to anyone for anything, I take care of me and mine.

As far as a bad place to work? I dont think so. I always made a living when working for others. As far as you assuming that I would ask the tax payers to pay my medical bills when I didnt have insurance, wrong again. I paid my medical bills. Worst were broken bones, I paid within a year.

My brothers insurance doesnt cover maternity, he is paying $6,000 before the kid is born on those horrible wages he is paid competing against illegal aliens.

I have worked here my whole life, competing against illegals is like competing against a hack, I dont do it and never have, (other than being a ditch digger when I started out) I educated my self in my trade and no one ever said "well I only pay julio $10 an hour".

If what you say is true, I applaud you on being able to and wanting to be a good, responsible employer. But the facts are the facts. You are not the norm, the numbers do not lie.

Also when you didn't have health insurance, what would have happened if you got cancer or HIV? You would not have been able to pay for that. You were taking a risk. But ultimately a good portion of the risk you took was assumed by taxpayers. Unless your answer to that is to roll over and die.

Your brother is a good example. I am not sure what he does for a living, but is he not "worthy" of decent medical insurance? Is the ditch digger not "worthy"? This is kind of a moot point because our society deems them as "worthy". By the government picking up the tab of medical care and not letting people die in the street. Shouldn't the industry these people work in either provide insurance or enough in wages for the employee to purchase insurance?
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