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Old 02-21-2011, 10:45 PM   #1
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Job Sequencing Issues


Opinions requested from GCs and subs. We have reached our substantial completion for a recent union, commercial, project at least 4 weeks ago. Sequencing has been an issue from the start. A job bid as a single phase turned into two-plus phases. Parts that we had to paint came in piecemeal. Crew productivity was in the tank.

Now, the GC expects us to paint another piecemeal item that was in our contract The item should have taken 1-2 hours if it was there at the jobsite when it should have been. The crew could have painted it in between other tasks. Now it will take a minimum of 2-3 half days of labor due to paint curing time and union half day rules. If I send a painter out for even one hour we are required to pay them a half day. So we are looking at a loss of 6-10 labor hours. We already took losses to paint other items that came in out of sequence.

What recourse does a sub have? What is the accepted practice? What are the GCs opinions? Subs opinions?

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Old 02-21-2011, 10:51 PM   #2
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I was a project manager for a gc for a while. If it was our fault, I allowed a change order to be turned in to the owner. I would ask nicely if this is an option. The gc should have money in the job for your division above what you quoted if the owner balks at the change order. If they say no I wouldn't do work for them anymore.

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Is there any language in either the contract or spec to deal with this? Have you spoken with the GC/PM/Archy?
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I was a project manager for a gc for a while. If it was our fault, I allowed a change order to be turned in to the owner. I would ask nicely if this is an option. The gc should have money in the job for your division above what you quoted if the owner balks at the change order. If they say no I wouldn't do work for them anymore.
Thanks for the feedback. I will see what I can do.
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Is there any language in either the contract or spec to deal with this? Have you spoken with the GC/PM/Archy?
Griz, checked the contract. Not exactly sure if I have recourse due to sequencing problems. I will have to check with my attorney. Left a message with the GC. They are not very good with return calls.

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Try this in your next subcontract with a GC -

We shall perform the work under this agreement in accordance with mutually agreeable project schedules, revisions, and changes. We shall perform the work under this agreement in a coordinated and mutually agreeable project sequence relative to the project schedule. ACME Painting & Decorating, Inc. reserves the right to equitable compensation for any schedule acceleration, shift work, overtime requirements and any work performed out of sequence. This subcontractor reserves the right to equitable compensation for any delays and/or damages that may be incurred during the prosecution of our work.
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I was a project manager for a gc for a while. If it was our fault, I allowed a change order to be turned in to the owner. I would ask nicely if this is an option. The gc should have money in the job for your division above what you quoted if the owner balks at the change order. If they say no I wouldn't do work for them anymore.
If it was your fault as the GC why should the owner pay for it?
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I have also worked as a project manager for a commercial general contractor and the subject is always an argument. A schedule should have been an attachment to the subcontract if not at least a start and finish date. If the contractor has delayed you you have a right to a change order. One key to getting a change order is having the discussion as soon as the delays start, by waiting you have put yourself on the low end of the negotiating table. A book could be written on this topic alone but again communication is the key.
One issue is why was work out of sequence? Who caused delays? What was the impact of the delays to schedule, budget ect. That is why PM's document, document, document because he with the best documentation wins the battle.

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