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Old 07-25-2014, 11:32 PM   #21
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I'll be 57. Ugh.

I can do my own repairs (I imagine most of us here can...) but if it's automotive related I'll look at the Internet.

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Old 07-25-2014, 11:35 PM   #22
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Most of my handyman work is for people in my age group(early 30s).

Here are some highlights:

1. "My door handle is stuck and always locks me out." It was one of the old style locks with the two push buttons. Somebody pushed the button.

2. "My sink is broken. I need to have it replaced." They had their plumbing serviced recently. There was some crud in the filter of the faucet plugging it up.

3. "The door to my shed is broken. Can you tell me if it needs to be replaced?" It was a double door that had an adjustable strike plate. Nobody adjusted the strike plate.


There's so many more but I'm pretty tired and can't think of any others that I've fixed with a Leatherman or less. The push-button lock one was hilarious. One of my favorite customers. "You can NOT tell my wife this happened. Swear to me!"
How much did you charge to replace the shed door?
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My father did not have any repair skills and did not teach me. I am still a beginner but the internet has helped me surpass his skills by far. Most basic repairs can be done easily after spending a few minutes online. In the last few months I have fixed my dryer, rebuilt a lawnmower (carb) and wired in new pot lights in my office all thanks to free internet tips.
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I do think that there will be a problem, the internet is a great tool BUT craftsmanship doesn't occur by watching videos. Craftsmanship is knowledge plus skill and the electronic generation has little in the way of practical experience. That and the quick/cheap way homes have been built lately makes contractor repair look promising on the horizon.
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You can find how to fix damn near anything on the internet....
There is really no need to know how to fix a leaky faucet until it leaks.
I think you're missing the point. The article is not saying that knowledge of DIY is going over the internet. The article is saying that no one wants to do construction work anymore. They'd rather play on the computer.

Here is another article that explains that the average age of a construction worker has been increasing in the last 50 years:

Construction workers, like the rest of the U.S. population, are getting older. The average age in construction was 40.4 years in 2008, 4.4 years older than in 1985 (see Figure 1). More than 40 percent of construction workers are "baby boomers," that is, they were born between 1946 and 1964. The proportion of construction workers in this age range varies from 23 percent among roofers to 54 percent among construction managers. And construction workers overall stop working at an earlier age than other workers. These demographics predict an exodus of experienced workers from the industry in the next decade. CPWR -- The Center for Construction Research and Training is evaluating ways to increase work participation as construction workers age.

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No, I get it.
My son is pursuing degrees in economics and computer science at one of the top colleges in the country.
Why on earth would he care to learn to properly pound nails all day, especially when it's implied in school that you are a failure if you are without a college education.
He would much rather pay someone a fraction of his earnings to handle the jobs he can't perform.

I remember that they had 6 computers in his kindergarten classroom. It's what these kids know.

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Well by then maybe skilled trades will be hard to find and homeowners will have to pay all the more.

I'm still at the age where I could pursue computer science. I'm fairly capable in that respect thanks to years of schooling pounding it into my head but I don't think I'd enjoy it as much. Also this job keeps me fit, I'd be fat otherwise.
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Why on earth would he care to learn to properly pound nails all day, especially when it's implied in school that you are a failure if you are without a college education.
That's so true, but maybe, in our lifetimes, that pendulum will swing the other way. I know *many* 20-somethings and 30-somethings that will NEVER work long enough or live long enough to pay off student loans.

Conversely, you could spend two or three years learning a trade and spend the rest of your life earning a good wage.

BTW, this is the very thing Mike Rowe was talking about in the other thread: The importance of America having workers that know how to work with their hands.
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Well by then maybe skilled trades will be hard to find and homeowners will have to pay all the more.

I'm still at the age where I could pursue computer science. I'm fairly capable in that respect thanks to years of schooling pounding it into my head but I don't think I'd enjoy it as much. Also this job keeps me fit, I'd be fat otherwise.
It'll be one of those cycles. Right now since we are going boldly into the computer age there are a lot of prospects in those job fields. But soon enough with everyone saying I'm to good for physical labor the people who are capable of doing this will fade.

After a certain point there aren't going to be enough people to accommodate the need. And that is when 1 of 2 things will start to happen. People not able to find someone to fix their stuff are going to have to start paying an ever increasing price to get those physical labor jobs done.

Or as the price of the trades go up because there is a value to knowing how to work with your hands the younger crowd will start to notice you can once again make a decent living working with your hands.

Or the third option is the gov will let the illegals do all the manual labor for cheap and no one will be happy with the quality of the repairs and they will just buy new stuff.
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It'll be one of those cycles. Right now since we are going boldly into the computer age there are a lot of prospects in those job fields. But soon enough with everyone saying I'm to good for physical labor the people who are capable of doing this will fade.

After a certain point there aren't going to be enough people to accommodate the need. And that is when 1 of 2 things will start to happen. People not able to find someone to fix their stuff are going to have to start paying an ever increasing price to get those physical labor jobs done.

Or as the price of the trades go up because there is a value to knowing how to work with your hands the younger crowd will start to notice you can once again make a decent living working with your hands.

Or the third option is the gov will let the illegals do all the manual labor for cheap and no one will be happy with the quality of the repairs and they will just buy new stuff.
I'll take option one as I'd rather work in the trades over a desk job any day. Might as well get paid more...
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I'm still amused by the use of "DIY" and "skill" in the same sentence.
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Ya, that is kinda an insult now isn't it?
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I disagree with the statement that people will do less DIY in the future. The article seems to claim that a higher percent of people were taught or learned skills during previous years, but the people doing DIY work today are not taught. A high percent of the people currently doing the DIY work today were never taught even the basics.

Every day, I see people standing at DIY cash registers with water heaters and these people are purchasing parts for gas piping and valves that are made only for water piping.

Twenty five years ago, my company was selling about 240 garbage disposers every year. Now, with the DIY stores my company sells about 80 disposers annually. Water heater sales went from about 180 per year to 100. From our water heater and disposer sales we used to upsell many of the jobs to between $5k to $10k. Thanks to the DIY's we now have only 1/3 of the potential customers to upsell.

When a homeowner needs service or a repair this is the order they think with:

1) Can I do the service or repair myself,

2) do I have a relative or friend who can do the service for free,

3) do you know someone who can perform the service who charges lower than the market price.

and 4) the last person I want to call is someone who is going to charge me the market price.

The customer are rare with the attitude that money is no problem and I am willing to pay top-dollar because I know that good service should be at the top of my list is important.

With DIY stores, every idiot idiot with a butter knife and a can of glue thinks he has the expertise the same as a general contractor and this will never change.
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Im ok with homeowners staying the fruck out of homedepot and lowes.
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In this day and age when things are getting tighter and tighter, financially, I believe even more people are d.i.y.. It seems as though today, more and more people have an idea what is wrong with the a/c, as they have done on line research.

I guess I have to disagree with the report. Maybe folks don't want to turn a wrench for a living, but they certainly don't have a problem with turning a wrench for themselves.
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I agree. Not everybody has 10 thumbs. With some things,(say crown molding for instance) the only difference between the pro and the DIY are speed and efficiency. If they have the time and don't mind wasting some material as they learn watching on line videos, the finished product can rival some of the pro work I have seen.
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That sounds like my brother. He was building a nice medicine cabinet. He came into my shop about 2-4 hour a day while I was building a kitchen. I built the kitchen and finished it and he finished the medicine cabinet. And then I had to put a finish on the medicine cabinet. It came out really nice, but I built a really nice kitchen in the same time. Ya, I was working 10-12 hour a day and he only worked 3....but I built a kitchen and he built one cabinet.
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new to this entire website, im 25yrs old, i graduated from college in the field of computer networking, i was a know it all until i received my first drill(didnt know how to change the bit, but i know how many bits are in a byte lol)...being born and raised in apts all my life i knew nothing about homes or how to use my hands, but after 2.5 years of experience, i learnt* a lot, after dealing with customers- they don't want to bother with computers or fish a wall, i'm very optimistic about the future..hope the trend continues.
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Some people just cannot do anything with their hands. Others are just too lazy to even try. And what qualifies anyone as a "Pro"?. There are tons of so called "Pros" that are nothing more than DIYer's, they don't have clue how things are supposed to be done.

I believe a "Pro" has a natural knack to work with their hands and don't have to look on the internet to figure out how to do everything.
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That sounds like my brother. He was building a nice medicine cabinet. He came into my shop about 2-4 hour a day while I was building a kitchen. I built the kitchen and finished it and he finished the medicine cabinet. And then I had to put a finish on the medicine cabinet. It came out really nice, but I built a really nice kitchen in the same time. Ya, I was working 10-12 hour a day and he only worked 3....but I built a kitchen and he built one cabinet.
well he probably enjoyed it..plus you weren't there to irritate him so what was his rush?

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