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Old 02-24-2010, 10:13 PM   #21
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I read that thread after the fact, davinci.

Here's an update. What a day. I found out this morning they call for 2-7 inches tonight. I called the distributor and he had 90 snow guards. So I called the h/o, he said let's roll. I put my boots and off to the races.

It was snowing when I got there. Felt like a race. But I won! It's a done deal. They are what they are, and where they are!

I was planning on using sealant, and screws. But I wouldn't have made it. So I read the directions again, and it said if using screws you do not need adhesive. So I put 4 screws in the larger ones, and three screws in the smaller ones. I staggered and made sure they were behond the load bearing wall. First ones I've ever installed. They will be tested tonight. You can see the leaf relief is already covered. I was wiping snow, trying to dry, then fasten, and on to the next. Ladder sinking in the mud from saturated ground. Roof slick as glass.







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Old 02-24-2010, 10:28 PM   #22
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They are on 10" centers. One between every large rib.
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Old 02-24-2010, 10:33 PM   #23
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They are the Berger brand. I got them through my distributor here in KNoxville, RSG.

I appreciate everyones input and suggestions.

I let you know how they perform.
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So much for trying to help..............
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i don't understand what keeps water out from under the guard
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Old 02-25-2010, 10:10 PM   #26
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When I was screwing those things down, I fastened one upside down. So when I took it back off it was like the metal was pulled up in the predrilled hole a little and it was tight to the roof even though the screws had been removed. I had to pull on it? There are two different sizes that I installed. The smaller ones fit flush on the middle of the pan and the larger one strattled both small ribs. I am very skeptical. But yesterday it was a situation where the h/o had paid to repair/replace damaged gutters, and new Leaf Relief, and he just wanted action to prevent damage to the new products cause the snow was moving in that evening. I had access to the guards and followed the instructions.

Now he wants me to install half way up the steep sides front and back, all the way across. I priced it and it's a go.

They will be in Monday, and will probably do the job later next week.

Anybody got any suggestions on the best way to accomplish that? I'm all ears.

The only thing I can think of since that roof is so steep is to hang a smaller ladder from the ridge install a couple guards then stand on the guards as I work my way across the roof. I could tie off to a tree on the other side of the building and while standing on the guards work the ladder across as I go. It's not going to be fun. I am a lot more comfortable on a shingle roof with my cushion. No fear. But metal? Not crazy about it.
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just nail in some 2x4 shingle brackets, put a board between them. There you go, something to rest a ladder on. When your done, bang out the brackets, either pull out the nails with your hammer or just pound the nails flush and caulk. You could then always get some spray paint from the hardware store to touch up the caulk.
Alot safer the hanging on to a rope while tip toeing on the snowguards.
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Hello,

I am wondering... Did you set the guards in any caulking? I did not see where you said you did or didn't.
If you did not then you may have some problems. Even though the guards may be tight to the roof, they are there to hold snow and as the snow melts water WILL run under the guards and find a way into the screw holes.
As far as installing more, you could buy a ladder hook if you don't have one.http://josephjenkins.com/store/produ...cat=255&page=1

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I did not seal them all. I started too. But was running out of time and if I was going to beat the snow and get done, I had to just screw them down. The instructions say that when fastening with scews you do not need to seal or use adhesive. I don't buy that statement. So when I go back to install the rest, I plan on using Geocel 2300. Couldn't I just put a bead across the top and down both sides and be done? I don't have to seal the whole bottom of the snow guard then seal all around it do I?

I'd hate to nail roofing jacks in the metal roof. But that is probably best and safest way to do it.

If I used the ladder hook, will using it dent and damage the metal ridge? Never used on in this type of situation.

I got some time on this one.
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But that is probably best and safest way to do it.
Now I feel bad. I was being sarcastic with what I wrote, and you obviously are somewhat at a loss for this.
The purpose of this forum is sharing and helping.

It wont be easy but it can be done. It would also help to try to use the holes aready put in the roof to secure something. Brackets and board will work, but not with nails, but possbily useing the existing screws. You also need to greatly minimize scratching the paint with everything you will be useing.
When you are complete, caulk the holes and reapply the screws.
They are other methods as well, but figuring out how to do something is often times the hardest part and the best way to learn.

The roof will have problems later if you do not seal under the snowguards the way your pictures show, there is no seal ( gasket ) between the two parts.

You are also correct in the assumption of damaging the roof with the ladder hook, unless you make adjustments to it like covering the steel on the jack that will touch the roof. Metal is slick, the hook may not grab well.
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Pardon my ignorance on the subject. I had never even heard of snowguards until the other day. We have had 10 plus years of mild winters. You can drive all over town and not see a single snow guard.

Metal roofing is getting more and more popular around here. And the more popular they become, the more demand will be created for these snow guards. Supposing the mild winters stay at bay.

This Global Warming is really something!

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Does anyone have experience with the flick wrapping? Do you know if that is for metal roofing as well as shingles?

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Finished the snow guards yesterday. Thought I'd post some pics.





There is still snow on these from last week.

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gives me the willies just looking at the roof with the snow on it

anyone that hasn't been on a metal roof that's wet,or even dusty

would be amazed at how slick it is

glad you got done safely Stone
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All of the metal roofs I ever did were hidden fastener, the manufacturers speced glue on or clamp on snow guards, mostly Polar. With the proper adhesive they stay on just fine. I would not install a roof without them. In this area we have plenty of snow and ice and when a sheet of ice the size of a 16" x 20' panel comes down it can be deadly.
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In this area we have plenty of snow and ice and when a sheet of ice the size of a 16" x 20' panel comes down it can be deadly.
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On a metal roof like this: Ice Jacks are the first and best option. In addition, I almost always strap the gutters and screw to the roof rather than the fascia. When the ice slides off it will unpeel an omni hanger-even the really strong ones like in your picture. Whether you use a roof strap or an omni, be sure to screw through the lip of the gutter and through the hanger-so it can't be unpeeled.

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