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Old 02-11-2008, 07:18 PM   #1
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I was wondering if you think it is worth while to get certified by certainteed and Gaf and so on.
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Old 02-11-2008, 07:32 PM   #2
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Does GAF still charge for their program?

The Certainteed Master Shingle Applicator, MSA, qualifications are free and done via an open book test.

There is a thread here regarding doing the MSA test online together, if you are interested in following through with it.

I have been meaning to get that topic back in gear since the winter is heavily upon us right now.

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Old 02-11-2008, 07:59 PM   #3
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yeah gaf still charges I just finished the certainteed test and am trying to schedule the gaf test. Been doing this work for about 14 years and just figure I should get these to help sell myself and am also getting a IB roof system cert for the PVC roofing systems
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Everthing I hear about IB Roof Systems seems to be top notch, plus they sound like good people to deal with as well.

By the way, I bumped up the thread topic regarding the MSA shingle test online in this forum. Please get involved with any commentary you feel is appropriate in that forum too.

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yeah gaf still charges

I just finished the certainteed test and am trying to schedule the gaf test. Been doing this work for about 14 years and just figure I should get these to help sell myself and am also getting a IB roof system cert for the PVC roofing systems
How much do they charge and do they obligate a minimum amount of their products to be purchased by you to become certified by them?

I never agreed to the point of having to buy a product to have my knowledge validated by them. It wreeks of self serving bias and colusion regarding the integrity of their program.

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gaf charges 50.00 for the course and you don't have to by just their products but I do think they have incentives.
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Well $ 50.00 seems reasonable.

Years ago, when I was in contact with them, it was an outlandish figure, so I just told them to pizz off.

I guess I have to search for how to get those credentials for myself now, based on the fee you stated.

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here is a link to were I got the price http://www.gaf.com/General/GafMain.a...ARE_index.html
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What I saw when I was just checking links before I saw yours, was that there are various CARE courses which you can take for the fee of $ 50.00.

I would be interested in finding out about how to become one of the Master Elite Contractors. That seems to be the main credential, but do you have to take one or all of those CARE courses to qualify? Or, is the Master Elite Certification something completely different.

There was another link I found, but you had to have an ID # or access code to enter that portion of the GAF site.

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I think you have to take the care course for the installer
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Never had much use for it.....

A couple of times over the years I've run across particular projects which required one of those manufacture "authorized/elite type appicator BS", (LOL),...but much as Ed said, they wanted some fee to apply their product...no thanks....

I suppose if it became neccessary, I'd have to, but as of yet, (last 10 years or so), hasn't been neccessay.
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Is it worthwhile yes, you will get job leads from the manufacturer for one. For two you will probably learn something that you thought you knew but were wrong. Three showing the cert during your sales calls is just one more reason for the customer to hire you over the guy who doesn't.

In addition by having these certifications you are able to sell extended manufacturers warranties. Some consumers have demanded this from me in the past and if I were not certified I would not have been able to provide it, and would have lost the sale.
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Yes, it is a marketing tool....for sure....and I'm sure neccessary/worthwhile to some.....probably more so to the newbie.....
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I've gotten a few leads from Certainteeds website.
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Dougger are youa select shignler? I was only a quality master, but they changed it Quality Masters and Master Shignle Applicators are being removed, and only Select Shinglers will be listed. When I get the time I will have to take the MSA test, as well as have a few of my guys get certified as well so we get get Select Shingler credentials.

I am also in the process of getting Certainteed % star Vinyl siding certified which requires not only a vinyl siding quality master cert, but also A Vinyl Siding Institute certification as well as a millwork quality master certification. The NICE thing is they also require proof of insurance. Woo Hoo! Legitimacy pays off!
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We are a GAF ME and also a Certainteed shingle master crew,MSA and QM.
I was a Select Shingle Roofer but got downgraded because I did not update my tests. I am in the process of getting it again and possibly switching to primarily Certainteed in 2008 "long story why". The thing that will build loyalty with a manufacturer is not trying to extort me but to help me.

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