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Old 01-03-2009, 10:52 AM   #1
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I have yet to see a decent window and door schedule. The Architect plots the centers of the openings and thats it! On the Elevations there may sometimes be a window size ( 3057) And a note describing the type(ex. Pella). But i still have to look in the Pella book to find every R.O.Or the window salesman will give us the takeoff sheet with all the windows and R.O.'s and i find where they go plot #'s he has done. Is this the normal way of doing things for you guys?? Or is this Architect Lazy?
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There should be a schedule on the plans that call out the door and window sizes. Example: 3'0" x 6'8" door. Frame the opening two inches wider and the header height should be 82".

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There should be a schedule on the plans that call out the door and window sizes. Example: 3'0" x 6'8" door. Frame the opening two inches wider and the header height should be 82".
Yea that's fine for a door,and i do know header hts. But we often have combo units and the such. And like i mentioned ,sometimes, we have the actual size. Not always. And i hope you dont add 2" all around for your windows cause your nailing flange will barely be catching, at least on the windows we use most of the time. And there is never a schedule, that was kind of why i posted.
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Yea that's fine for a door,and i do know header hts. But we often have combo units and the such. And like i mentioned ,sometimes, we have the actual size. Not always. And i hope you dont add 2" all around for your windows cause your nailing flange will barely be catching, at least on the windows we use most of the time. And there is never a schedule, that was kind of why i posted.
Not on windows, only on doors for the jamb thickness and shimming. Windows I only leave a 1/2".
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Yea that's fine for a door,and i do know header hts. But we often have combo units and the such. And like i mentioned ,sometimes, we have the actual size. Not always. And i hope you dont add 2" all around for your windows cause your nailing flange will barely be catching, at least on the windows we use most of the time. And there is never a schedule, that was kind of why i posted.
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not all, but sometimes, plans are drawn like that because it is not known the brand of door or windows that will be used. Leaving room for variations. This should cause the one who is building the plans to ask what brand will be installed.
Sometimes a builder will request they be left out if the plans will be used over & over to allow for product changing as desired.
And sometimes it is because, as with any of us, a H/O ask where to cut cost, this is one place the Arch can safely cut cost.
Other times, I just do not know why!!!
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Not on windows, only on doors for the jamb thickness and shimming. Windows I only leave a 1/2".
So let me ask you then, you usually do have a plot# and schedule then for all your ro's. Because we never do, and i've done enough now where i am getting familiar with the manufactures #'s. But i still think the architect should do it.
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In fairness,
not all, but sometimes, plans are drawn like that because it is not known the brand of door or windows that will be used. Leaving room for variations. This should cause the one who is building the plans to ask what brand will be installed.
Sometimes a builder will request they be left out if the plans will be used over & over to allow for product changing as desired.
And sometimes it is because, as with any of us, a H/O ask where to cut cost, this is one place the Arch can safely cut cost.
Other times, I just do not know why!!!
Yea i see your point, but all our builds are custom. And we mostly use the same brand, that is speced on the plans. She just doesnt make one. I tell you what, i can't speak for all architects, but VIF & TBD should have never been shown to this one!!!
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Hey D Just my 2 cents but i like to use the CYA approach when it comes to plans. Cuz we all know that just because it says so on the plans doesn't mean its correct. in the case of windows especially. "we had no idea driveways cost that much.. we had to downgrade on the windows..i'm sure that you got the memo!!! "or "we got a smokin deal on the flooring so we upgraded the windows...i'm sure you got the memo right??? what im getting at is the best tool in your belt is communication. especially when it comes to those self evident questions that don't need to be asked. ask'em and ask'em again cuz nobody makes a livin with there catspaw. pick it up once put it where it goes. good luck in you future
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Hey D Just my 2 cents but i like to use the CYA approach when it comes to plans. Cuz we all know that just because it says so on the plans doesn't mean its correct. in the case of windows especially. "we had no idea driveways cost that much.. we had to downgrade on the windows..i'm sure that you got the memo!!! "or "we got a smokin deal on the flooring so we upgraded the windows...i'm sure you got the memo right??? what im getting at is the best tool in your belt is communication. especially when it comes to those self evident questions that don't need to be asked. ask'em and ask'em again cuz nobody makes a livin with there catspaw. pick it up once put it where it goes. good luck in you future
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