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Old 10-19-2006, 09:28 PM   #1
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I need to repair the ends of the gable end rafters(?) on all four corners of my house. There was no drip edge installed and they are all rotten for a good 18" up. What is the proper way to repair this without replacing the entire board, discounting any wood putty methods?
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Old 10-19-2006, 09:50 PM   #2
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Still waiting to hear the sexy part about that stupid ho . . .

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Are these rafters, also your facia??

Probably a pretty hard fix I'd think. Will probably include some sawzalling......are some patching back. Usually, the roof sheathing is nailed/stapled to the rafter....and the shingles might also be attatched to it(depending on where they hit and the size of nail).
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Are you using drip edge at all. Also I talked to one builder and he said it's required now. I've been framing for 23 years and I never seen anyone use drip edge on new work before. I read on other forums how people say you have to use drip edge or your roof will leak. I disagree 100% since we never use and and don't have leaks for not using it.

I've talked to every builder and GC around here and even roofers and they say it's not required. If it was , then every house woulld fail for not having drip edge.

This is why I don't think Tscar's rot problem is do to lack of drip edge.
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To me this sounds like the facia board is rotted. A lot of time the ends of the facia board rots, due to gutters backing up. Pretty easy fix, cut the rotted facia away and replace with new.

If that is not it, I can wait for the ho.

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if you are refering to the barge rafter then simply replace it with a treated barge. use a sawsall to remove the originall and then shoot the new one in through the shingling under and use wet and dry to blind patch the nails holes.
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Tom,

Are you using drip edge at all. Also I talked to one builder and he said it's required now. I've been framing for 23 years and I never seen anyone use drip edge on new work before. I read on other forums how people say you have to use drip edge or your roof will leak. I disagree 100% since we never use and and don't have leaks for not using it.

I've talked to every builder and GC around here and even roofers and they say it's not required. If it was , then every house woulld fail for not having drip edge.

This is why I don't think Tscar's rot problem is do to lack of drip edge.

I do use them, - - but more for rigidity than actual 'back-dripping'.

Otherwise, I agree, - - they would only seem necessary as an actual drip-edge if it was a minimal pitch with a minimal (shingle) overhang . . .
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tscar, is it your facia that is rotten out or you rater that is rotted out. if the rot is at the bottom then i would look at endgrain wicking the water and then rotting. if it is in the middle then i would say that there was a knot hole or crack that held moisture that allowed the rot to occur.

as for the drip edge, it is my belief that it is not nessessary(sp) if everything else is done right. i do find the drip edge is more for hiding the gap between the facia and the shingles and to give the shingle a helping hand to keep their overhang from having that sag.
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I do not know the proper term for it. It is the last rafter at the gable end. It is exposed, and at the point where it meets the fascia, it is rotten. I just do not want to have to replace the entire 24' 2x6.
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We call them "Fly Rafters" around here. It being rotted has nothing to do with not having a drip edge.

When I frame those, I install 2x4' or 2x6's outlookers every 3-4' flat notched into the rafters flush at the top and then 2x's on edge the width of the overhang. Whenever I have a roof that requires a splice in the fly rafters, the splice gets nailed into the center of the outlookers for added support.

Check to if you have that and then cut back to the closet one and replace up to there.

Here’s a couple pictures of a 1’ and 2’ fly rafter on a couple additions I framed.
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Perfect. So if I go up two of the cross members (8' or so), I shouldn't have any issues with a splice?
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Perfect. So if I go up two of the cross members (8' or so), I shouldn't have any issues with a splice?
You wont have any issues. I depends on how far up they have the outriggers. I don't think you need to go up 8' if only 18" is rotted out.You'll have to renail the sheathing back into the top and renail through the fascia.

It's hard to tell from the picture, but what is the rake now?
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18" rake with soffit.
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18" rake with soffit.
I'm talking about the size of the rake, 2x6, 2x8.
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2x8, sorry.

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