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Old 01-13-2012, 11:11 PM   #1
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Pulling Your Misses


dont know how many of u guys do this but i think it looks like a sloppy job when nails are blown threw the sheathing not hitting joists studs or rafters etc... Now i can undertsand on a 3000sf frame ur gonna have a fair share of em but on smaller jobs like additions and such i have a helper either pound em out or yank em threw with nail puller pliers. Am i being overly fussy or does anyone else do this??
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:24 PM   #2
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When I was a kid if I had more than a few "shiners" my old man would take away the nail gun and tell me to hand drive. It stuck.

Also, if I missed when bent over a nail instead of pulling I got my ass chewed.

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Pull misses yep.
Even building tract homes in my apprenticeship days we pulled/renailed "shiners" in all shear walls, though just the roofing ones that were visible in the eaves.
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Nothing ruins a clean frame like shiners everywhere. The last thing I do at the end of a job while my guys are rolling up is walk through and look for shiners. Everyone I find gets pulled.
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All shiners get pulled.

It gets embarrassing on a custom home explaining to the owners why a carpenter couldn't hit what he was aiming at...
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Pull the shiners
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glad to hear im not being crazy about this issue. as all i hear of the crew is bitchin about this when i do a quality control walk threw when the shell is weather tite and they all get paid by the hour!
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glad to hear im not being crazy about this issue. as all i hear of the crew is bitchin about this when i do a quality control walk threw when the shell is weather tite and they all get paid by the hour!

Tell your crew tough chit. Need a laser sight?
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I don't know a building inspector that would pass a wall with more than 10% of the wall with shiners.
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I don't know a building inspector that would pass a wall with more than 10% of the wall with shiners.
I do. Lots of idiot inspectors
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I do. Lots of idiot inspectors
I actually like the ones that are real sticklers. Most of those guys became civil projects inspectors. Now the b team is in charge.
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As a youngen I hand nailed a lot of floors and roof and it taught me to hit the members. So I snap to the eves and eyeball the field and do very good And your guys that can't hit the stinking members have them pull em on their own time
I use a 2.5 nailed to the end of a 2x4 to pop the shiners up, oh and I scuff the 2.5 on the concrete to rough it up to grip the shiner
For sheer one can snap the lines on the ply when it's on the stack before tacking it on the wall
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we pull them also. mostly on a garage or porch where they may not be covered up.

doesnt take long to do, just if you pull them on the house walls, now we have a hole in the housewrap.

oh and we check the floor joists also. nothing worse than a nail squeaking
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As a youngen I hand nailed a lot of floors and roof and it taught me to hit the members. So I snap to the eves and eyeball the field and do very good And your guys that can't hit the stinking members have them pull em on their own time
I use a 2.5 nailed to the end of a 2x4 to pop the shiners up, oh and I scuff the 2.5 on the concrete to rough it up to grip the shiner
For sheer one can snap the lines on the ply when it's on the stack before tacking it on the wall
I took a drywall square and drilled holes at 16" and 32" that markers would screw into. It sits by the pile a d you just run it down the sheet before you pick it up.
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I took a drywall square and drilled holes at 16" and 32" that markers would screw into. It sits by the pile a d you just run it down the sheet before you pick it up.
Yup. I always pulled the shiners, but every sheet got lined off the pile. Double floor ply was a bitch to deal with shiners, so the less the better.

I had a part timer that worked cheap and could line a hack of plywood in about an hour and a half. Best money spent, IMO. That time is easily made up by not having to pull layout to straighten joists and being able to run with the gun without missing.
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One trick I do with sheathing is to mark a 16" and 32" line with my pencil and tape.

I'll just zip a pencil line on the top half of the sheet and then 32" on the bottom half.

This a a good way to teach newb's. It gives them a guide and teachs them to get the feel for shooting blind.
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My misses usually pulls me..... :



But really.... On customs, yes we will. On production homes or towns... we do it at the gc's request. But, we rarely miss

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