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Old 02-27-2014, 08:10 PM   #21
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What's the R-19 insulation for?
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Old 02-27-2014, 11:55 PM   #22
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What's the R-19 insulation for?
That's a good one to take a guess at. At first I assumed it was sill seal, however your question reminded me of a builder who wanted corners & wall ties built in a way that framers would have to insulate them or they would be covered up without any. He wanted a full stud instead of 3 blocks in all wall ties, but we rarely ever had to insulate any corners, as he thought.

I'm just taking a stab at this one... But, it could just be a good back rest for lunches.
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What's the R-19 insulation for?
Might be for where the joists fall on the block wall. To insulate between jiost and rim that can't be done after.

Always had a spud of insulation with the deck load, when framing up north in SE Wisconsin, just in case ect - general practice
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Might be for where the joists fall on the block wall. To insulate between jiost and rim that can't be done after.

Always had a spud of insulation with the deck load, when framing up north in SE Wisconsin, just in case ect - general practice
That seems like the best bet, after looking at the layout.
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They just send it out in case we have a weird corner or something. We rarely use it as i try to layout to avoid having to insulate. My feeling is that sometime before the building is dried in that insulation will see moisture. As for the box sills, we started laying out all first bays at 2' to maximize the room the spray foam guys get. A lot of builders started to go to spraying the rimboards
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That's a good one to take a guess at. At first I assumed it was sill seal, however your question reminded me of a builder who wanted corners & wall ties built in a way that framers would have to insulate them or they would be covered up without any. He wanted a full stud instead of 3 blocks in all wall ties, but we rarely ever had to insulate any corners, as he thought.

I'm just taking a stab at this one... But, it could just be a good back rest for lunches.
I always have a few sheets of 2" foam sent out for the partition cavities. I take them home and rip them on the table saw to 3 1/2". By using foam instead of fiberglas, moisture is not an issue.
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Couple pics from today. We were off site wednesday and thursday and started late today because of the cold. The seven-ply micro has been a pain from day one. This plan has been engineered for months now yet the lumber guy didnt search for the bolts until i asked for them on monday. Finally got all of them at 2 this afternoon. At least we got the deck on and lines snapped before the snow this weekend

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Seven ply micro?

That seems pointless. I have never seen more than a 4 ply. Why not go with steel at that point? Cheaper, less labor, and lighter.
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Thats been the general consensus around here too. Thats the first time ive done one over 4-ply
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Seven ply micro?

That seems pointless. I have never seen more than a 4 ply. Why not go with steel at that point? Cheaper, less labor, and lighter.
The pic in my avatar was an old 3 story house on Ohio State's campus,(caught fire)... Where my head is at, a 10' ridge connected and on the other side of ridge, a 1''X 8" steel scissor type truss(maybe 800lbs) made up both sides of them common rafters(Huge capital "A'' shape).

After taking 8 guys to get it set(by rope, too many wires for crane), we had to bolt two 8" micro's on each side. Talking about a headache and overkill...

I think it took us around 5 hrs with all the obstacles.

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Thats been the general consensus around here too. Thats the first time I've done one over 4-ply
We're expecting 6-12" snow Sun-Mon.
With you getting the deck on, that's about as good as it gets, for them conditions. I hope it don't put too much damage on your cranking.
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Couple pics from today. We were off site wednesday and thursday and started late today because of the cold. The seven-ply micro has been a pain from day one. This plan has been engineered for months now yet the lumber guy didnt search for the bolts until i asked for them on monday. Finally got all of them at 2 this afternoon. At least we got the deck on and lines snapped before the snow this weekend

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Couple pics from today. We were off site wednesday and thursday and started late today because of the cold. The seven-ply micro has been a pain from day one. This plan has been engineered for months now yet the lumber guy didnt search for the bolts until i asked for them on monday. Finally got all of them at 2 this afternoon. At least we got the deck on and lines snapped before the snow this weekend
Are the joist lagged through the steel beam flange from below?
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Are the joist lagged through the steel beam flange from below?
Probably calls for strapping either side of the steel. I haven't done it like that in about 12yrs
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Probably calls for strapping either side of the steel. I haven't done it like that in about 12yrs
Toronto thing. Senator homes down in Woodstock did it for their models.
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Toronto thing. Senator homes down in Woodstock did it for their models.
That is where I did 12yrs ago lol
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The joists just float on the beam. We temp brace the beams in place until we are done with the house then they are just held in place by the weight from above.

Heres a few progress pics from the past couple days. We were off a few days because of the so we're not to far yet.

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Is that 1/2" AC for soffit? What's the fascia?

It's been a while since I built a bay like that. Only way to go!
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Is that 1/2" AC for soffit? What's the fascia?

It's been a while since I built a bay like that. Only way to go!
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