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Old 01-14-2019, 08:43 AM   #1
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I am prepping to install metal studs around the internal perimeter of my gut reno home. The walls & ceiling were plaster and lathe and is now ripped down to brick and wood studs b/w the bricks. This is a 100 year old 3 family home - internal measurement 18 x 56. Im working on the top floor. It has a flat roof pitched downwards towards the back of the building. The bottom of the roof joists are 14 higher than the subfloor in the front and 12 higher in the back. Planned ceiling height is 10'.

My initial plan was to screw the metal track to the bottom of the ceiling joists. But ceiling joists have peaks and valleys everywhere and are somewhat twisted. So I went to plan B.

Plan B is to screw a 2x3 wood stud into the wood frame of the house at the correct height all around the interior. Im using a laser to level. And then attach the metal track to the 2x3 stud. I did a test run in a small area and it seems to work no problem.

Is this method of attaching the top metal track acceptable?






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Old 01-14-2019, 10:50 AM   #2
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build the wall & stand it up - secure appropriately & of course plumb
You are leaving a gap between the two walls right?

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build the wall & stand it up - secure appropriately & of course plumb
You are leaving a gap between the two walls right?


Ive read other people doing that. Why do you prefer to build on the floor first?

Yes there will be about a 1 gap.

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Easier and faster to build on the ground, althought with metal framing it's a little flimsy standing it up. Keep the wall height to your lowest point and shim the gaps between the higher joists to attach them. Keep I simple.
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Easier and faster to build on the ground, althought with metal framing it's a little flimsy standing it up. Keep the wall height to your lowest point and shim the gaps between the higher joists to attach them. Keep I simple.

Your method made it easier. One mistake I made with my first wall was the floor wasnt level. So the studs werent plumb. Ill shim the floor level going forward.



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As a general rule, in commercial, we attach the top and bottom rail, then slide the studs in.

On residential, we usually do the same, but in the beginning we framed it like wood.

Im not sure why its different. Possibly because commercial usually has taller walls. We just finished one. The walls were 14 tall with a 134 ceiling. Not enough room to build them in the floor.


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Sometimes its easier to secure your bottom track, and stand up, shim/plumb/secure 2 layout studs around 9 ft apart, then drop the top track on, and fill in the rest of your layout studs. We avoid building steel walls on the floor at all costs, many easier ways to get it done.
Even when I'm building a free standing wall I will use this similar method except I will add braces to keep my first layout studs secure/plumb. All of the walls in this picture were built in place,

Same thing here, also built in place,

Sorry I dont have any pics of exterior fur walls, same concept except I'll put a 4" bend on a cut off piece of stud or track, and brace the first 2 studs back to the exterior wall.

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I would also go with the track to the 2x3 and a level height. This keeps the top of the wall good for the new ceiling joist instead of fallowing a old and messed up floor. Once I get the top&bottom track set the studs go fast.
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Most all of the metal residential framing here is done in yards on framing tables and stood in place to be braced and plumb&lined off.
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Most all of the metal residential framing here is done in yards on framing tables and stood in place to be braced and plumb&lined off.
I don't normally touch residential, but there are a few companies here that prefab steel walls, they also weld everything instead of using #10's. Everything I build is framed in place.
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I don't normally touch residential, but there are a few companies here that prefab steel walls, they also weld everything instead of using #10's. Everything I build is framed in place.
Yes,Yes the commercial stuff is all done in place here too. Like you said the demising walls can get very tall and done with the scissor lift.
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Doing an exterior structural storefront atm, mostly 12 gauge 3" flange, 30 feet, studs gotta weigh 180 pounds, using the boom lift to crane them up

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