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Old 02-22-2015, 01:07 AM   #1
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I recently built a deck for a very good customer. (Deck with an ocean view) even though I told them I'm pretty much just doing decks these days, they insisted I remodel their Master bath. So I Agreed. She found this on Houzz and adamantly wants this ceiling and tub below. I think it's very cool looking and look forward to framing it. However a lot of thoughts have come to mind on how to tackle the framing. There's 16 ways to skin a cat and I believe this is one of those cats. It has some similarities of a groin vault. So what do you guys got for me.
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Old 02-22-2015, 01:18 AM   #2
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Plywood profiles with blocking in between to stabilize and to screw sheetrock.

Edit: The plywood sheets all parallel to the back wall. And I'd skip the chandelier and go straight to bare wires.

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Plywood profiles with blocking in between to stabilize and to screw sheetrock.

Edit: The plywood sheets all parallel to the back wall. And I'd skip the chandelier and go straight to bare wires.
What? Bare wires? Splain Lucy!
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Plywood profiles with blocking in between to stabilize and to screw sheetrock.

Edit: The plywood sheets all parallel to the back wall. And I'd skip the chandelier and go straight to bare wires.
Plywood sheets all parallel to the back wall sounds good.
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I'm trying to draw a sketch, but I need a few more drinks first.
piece of ply for the front arch up to the ceiling. Then a piece of ply with same arch on back wall. 2x's from front to back perpendicular to front ply. cut 2 pieces of ply for side arches and follow arch to join ceiling. I'm sure that made no sense.

and that's why I'm no architect!
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I'm waiting on plans as we speak. But I want to think on it now.
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I'm waiting on plans as we speak. But I want to think on it now.
more importantly, make sure that lamp is on a gfci circuit, I think it's required.
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It's almost like l have to just start. Get all the absolutes out of the way. Like I think I need to plant a piece of ply on all three walls the shape of each arch. Then install the front ply matching the back of course.

Another thought was to build it on the ground, so I can access through the top.
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The whole underneath is concaved
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Thumbs up!
Looks like a fun project

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more importantly, make sure that lamp is on a gfci circuit, I think it's required.
I believe everything in San clemente has to be a GFCI breaker. The last remodel I did there, even the lights had to have them. My electrician says they are very sensitive and create a lot of call Backs. Especially lights.
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I believe everything in San clemente has to be a GFCI breaker. The last remodel I did there, even the lights had to have them. My electrician says they are very sensitive and create a lot of call Backs. Especially lights.
Yup, the can lights above the showers. Steam, light sockets and GFCI don't play well together...
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Looks like intersecting 3 centered arches. You'll need to make laminated pieces for where the arches intersect. Otherwise, plywood and blocking like Bob said takes care of most of it, just not the smaller crossing arch.
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i would use a arch kit from archkit .com yes it is cheating but i win at the bank and you are still cutting sheet rock
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First, I would make a plywood template of the side walls and lay it out on 12" centers, from the middle out both ways. Mount these to the sides. Then, I would use laminated plywood "ribs" from front to back on 12" centers. As you progress toward the center, you can determine at what point your arch will take a level plane to match the side arch by your layouts on the side templates. For example, from the front, it looks like possibly 2 full ribs before you fall into the side arch. You can determine by your layouts on the side template, how high from the bottom plane and on what bevel you must cut a level plane to match the template. I do the same process with barrels that die into a hip or valley.
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Check your local electrical code. The install in the photos would be a violation of the NEC, no hanging lights within 3' of the tub, GFI protected or not.

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Check your local electrical code. The install in the photos would be a violation of the NEC, no hanging lights within 3' of the tub, GFI protected or not.

Tom
Yep just because there is a picture of something like that does not make it legal.
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Check your local electrical code. The install in the photos would be a violation of the NEC, no hanging lights within 3' of the tub, GFI protected or not.

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I'm thinking a recessed can light
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First, I would make a plywood template of the side walls and lay it out on 12" centers, from the middle out both ways. Mount these to the sides. Then, I would use laminated plywood "ribs" from front to back on 12" centers. As you progress toward the center, you can determine at what point your arch will take a level plane to match the side arch by your layouts on the side templates. For example, from the front, it looks like possibly 2 full ribs before you fall into the side arch. You can determine by your layouts on the side template, how high from the bottom plane and on what bevel you must cut a level plane to match the template. I do the same process with barrels that die into a hip or valley.
This is it, right here. Thanks Lone.

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