Framing Bulkheads? - Framing - Contractor Talk

Framing Bulkheads?

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 01-22-2012, 10:09 AM   #1
Coombs Construction
 
Leafan's Avatar
 
Trade: Owner operator of Coombs Construction
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Toronto Ontario
Posts: 184
Rewards Points: 150

Framing Bulkheads?


Hey guys. Brief history I am a young GC have done countless basement, bathroom, and kitchen renos. Been doing this stuff for 15 years now.

Recently I started a Big job a complete house gut, underpin, second floor addition. For me this is a huge job. I have been handling everything well. Job has been moving along smoothly. We are 95% framed pluming is in HVAC in electrical starting Monday

My question to you all is what is the best way to frame out my bulkheads? Quickest and easiest method.??

I have done plenty of bulkheads in basements but I always use steel L track and firing channel. I more often than not frame out my bulkheads last. After the ceilings and walls are boarded.

But I don't think I can go about it the same way. I think I should be framing out the bulkheads now? Am I correct?
Attached Thumbnails
Framing Bulkheads?-image-2835307917.jpg   Framing Bulkheads?-image-959296541.jpg  
Leafan is offline  

Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

   

Advertisement

 

Old 01-22-2012, 10:58 AM   #2
Capra aegagrus

 
Tinstaafl's Avatar
 
Trade: Remodeler
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Central Pennsylvania
Posts: 23,171
Rewards Points: 1,357

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


Without knowing every nitty-gritty detail, it certainly seems to make sense to do framing while you're doing framing.

The only exception would be if your bulkheads are going to get in the way of, for instance, the plumber's access to certain areas. He'll be blessing you if he has to form 10' lengths of pipe into pretzels to work them into place.

Advertisement

Tinstaafl is offline  
Old 01-22-2012, 11:05 AM   #3
Pro
 
jlyons's Avatar
 
Trade: capenter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Alberta
Posts: 190
Rewards Points: 219

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


in my living room i tried something i had never done before. i nailed a 2x2 to my ceiling after board and a 2x2 to the wall. hung the drywall off the ceiling 2x2 and then snapped a line across back at desired height. screwed a steel stud on the back. cut drywall flush with stud. screw on bottom drywall plumbing as you go. very little material pretty quick, easy for 1 guy. pretty nice straight bulkhead.
jlyons is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 01-22-2012, 11:38 AM   #4
Nail-Bender
 
Brutus's Avatar
 
Trade: Carpenter
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Halifax, NS, Canada
Posts: 4,604
Rewards Points: 2,020

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


This is one I did in my parents basement. I was trying to use up all the scrap material that would of made it to the garbage.... :
Attached Thumbnails
Framing Bulkheads?-2008_0702abunch0043.jpg  
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2ndGen
If you haven't bled while working once in your life, you haven't worked!
Brutus is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Brutus For This Useful Post:
JustaFramer (01-22-2012), knucklehead (01-22-2012)
Old 01-22-2012, 11:50 AM   #5
Coombs Construction
 
Leafan's Avatar
 
Trade: Owner operator of Coombs Construction
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Toronto Ontario
Posts: 184
Rewards Points: 150

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


Quote:
Originally Posted by jlyons
in my living room i tried something i had never done before. i nailed a 2x2 to my ceiling after board and a 2x2 to the wall. hung the drywall off the ceiling 2x2 and then snapped a line across back at desired height. screwed a steel stud on the back. cut drywall flush with stud. screw on bottom drywall plumbing as you go. very little material pretty quick, easy for 1 guy. pretty nice straight bulkhead.
That's very similar to how I do mine normally. I use a steel L track on the ceiling. Cut my drywall to the desired hight of bulk. Attach to L track on ceiling. Level back to wall. Slap another L track there cut a bottom. BAM Perfect bulkhead everytime. I do this after drywall is on both ceiling and wall.
Leafan is offline  
Old 01-22-2012, 12:14 PM   #6
Pro
 
donerightwyo's Avatar
 
Trade: custom builder
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,804
Rewards Points: 320

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


We often use a 9.5" TJI, screwed through the top flange to the bottom of the joists. It is super fast and a monkey could do it.
donerightwyo is online now  
Old 01-22-2012, 01:30 PM   #7
Coombs Construction
 
Leafan's Avatar
 
Trade: Owner operator of Coombs Construction
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Toronto Ontario
Posts: 184
Rewards Points: 150

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


Quote:
Originally Posted by donerightwyo
We often use a 9.5" TJI, screwed through the top flange to the bottom of the joists. It is super fast and a monkey could do it.
We have to keep them tighter than that. The windows are very tall. I think we only have 10" to the RO
Leafan is offline  
Old 01-22-2012, 03:07 PM   #8
Pro
 
knucklehead's Avatar
 
Trade: Extraordinary Carpenter
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 3,485
Rewards Points: 2,728

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


There are alot of different ways to do it, and there are not all the same
knucklehead is offline  
Old 01-22-2012, 04:43 PM   #9
Forming and Framing
 
FramingPro's Avatar
 
Trade: Shell builder
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Toronto
Posts: 6,273
Rewards Points: 3,582

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


damn that place looks really good.
How did the framing go?
__________________
Im after fortune and frame

http://www.proicf.com
http://instagram.com/instagrauds
FramingPro is offline  
Old 01-22-2012, 05:33 PM   #10
KemoSabe
 
loneframer's Avatar
 
Trade: residential framing/siding/general carpentry
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Vineland, New Jersey
Posts: 14,233
Rewards Points: 12,218

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


Is New Jersey the only place that requires the bottom of the joists draft stopped inside a bulkhead/soffit?

I always either plywood or sheetrock the enclosed space first, then frame the soffit.

I've done it a few different ways, but 2x2 on the ceiling, 2x2 on the wall and a 2x2 at the corner with 1/2" plywood to wrap it is fast, easy, uses up waste material and gives solid fastening for drywall/cornerbead.
__________________
__________________________________




"Walking the fine line between production and perfection"




__________________________________
loneframer is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to loneframer For This Useful Post:
We Fix Houses (02-02-2012)
Old 01-22-2012, 05:54 PM   #11
Pro
 
JustaFramer's Avatar
 
Trade: Exiled For Life
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lynnwood,WA
Posts: 3,292
Rewards Points: 2,000

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


Quote:
Originally Posted by loneframer View Post
Is New Jersey the only place that requires the bottom of the joists draft stopped inside a bulkhead/soffit?

No. It is required here. Though the other day I seen a rough stair case that had final frame and no blocking. So things could have changed here.
I don't frame much anymore for a career.
JustaFramer is offline  
Old 01-22-2012, 05:55 PM   #12
Coombs Construction
 
Leafan's Avatar
 
Trade: Owner operator of Coombs Construction
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Toronto Ontario
Posts: 184
Rewards Points: 150

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


Quote:
Originally Posted by FramingPro
damn that place looks really good.
How did the framing go?
The framing went pretty smoothly. Was a tricky one though. The front trusses were fab'ed wrong and we ended up hand framing the gable. All and all it went good. There was a hell of a lot of detail on that roof every room on the top floor has coffered ceilings too.
Leafan is offline  
Old 01-22-2012, 06:25 PM   #13
Pro
 
jb4211's Avatar
 
Trade: General Contractor ~ Property Maintenance
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Philadelphia, Pa
Posts: 5,855
Rewards Points: 2,306

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


Is it just me, when I hear the term "bulkhead" I think of something to keep water back...like the ocean.

But in reading some of the posts, is bulkhead and soffit the same thing? Like, it's called a bulkhead in Canada and soffit hear. Or does everyone call it a bulkhead but me and I'm just wrong?

It wouldn't be the first time that's for sure?
__________________
Jon

Last edited by jb4211; 01-22-2012 at 06:58 PM.
jb4211 is offline  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to jb4211 For This Useful Post:
davitk (01-22-2012), loneframer (01-22-2012), Mud Master (01-26-2012)
Old 01-22-2012, 06:37 PM   #14
Pro
 
davitk's Avatar
 
Trade: Perfessional Contracter
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Frozen North
Posts: 910
Rewards Points: 502

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


Quote:
Originally Posted by jb4211 View Post
Is it just me, when I hear the team "bulkhead" I think of something to keep water back...like the ocean.

But in reading some of the posts, is bulkhead and soffit the same thing? Like, it's called a bulkhead in Canada and soffit hear. Or does everyone call it a bulkhead but me and I'm just wrong?

It wouldn't be the first time that's for sure?
We got cable for the first time this fall, and the family has been watching these crazy Canadians on HGTV who keep saying "bulkhead" and using blue wood?

In WI it's "soffit".
davitk is offline  
Old 01-22-2012, 06:44 PM   #15
topsail's trimcat
 
woodworkbykirk's Avatar
 
Trade: finish Carpenter/ renovations
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: ns, canada
Posts: 5,028
Rewards Points: 384

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


we typically try to keep them as small and light weight as possible, for bigger jobs where he hire the same drywall guy who hangs and tapes his own work. he will build bulkheads with steel stud.


on smaller jobs we frame them either with 2x, steel stud or just box things in with mdf
__________________
putting down subfloor with glue and screws, well i saw dr. smith and the robot too , i had a martian burger and a sonic shake
woodworkbykirk is offline  
Old 01-22-2012, 07:30 PM   #16
Capra aegagrus

 
Tinstaafl's Avatar
 
Trade: Remodeler
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Central Pennsylvania
Posts: 23,171
Rewards Points: 1,357

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


I learned it as "bulkhead". Soffit is under the eaves of a house. The one that's perfectly descriptive but always gives me a "huh?" moment is "eavestroughs".
Tinstaafl is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Tinstaafl For This Useful Post:
Mud Master (01-26-2012)
Old 01-22-2012, 07:31 PM   #17
Pro
 
JT Wood's Avatar
 
Trade: carpenter
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Calgary Ab Canada
Posts: 3,587
Rewards Points: 2,560

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


Quote:
Originally Posted by loneframer View Post
I've done it a few different ways, but 2x2 on the ceiling, 2x2 on the wall and a 2x2 at the corner with 1/2" plywood to wrap it is fast, easy, uses up waste material and gives solid fastening for drywall/cornerbead.


I do the same, imo it is the fastest and best way.

I rip the plywood on my tablesaw, and it guarantees a perfect result.

Except it's better if the mechanicals are installed first
__________________
Airdrie AB Renovation Contractor | Kitchen Renovations | Basement Developments | Facebook
JT Wood Construction Serves Airdrie, Cochrane, Olds, Mountainview, Rockyview and Crossfield, Alberta.
JT Wood is offline  
Old 01-22-2012, 08:49 PM   #18
Ciaos mitigator
 
chris klee's Avatar
 
Trade: Carpentry
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Delaware
Posts: 1,943
Rewards Points: 1,290

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


Quote:
Originally Posted by loneframer View Post
Is New Jersey the only place that requires the bottom of the joists draft stopped inside a bulkhead/soffit?

I always either plywood or sheetrock the enclosed space first, then frame the soffit.

I've done it a few different ways, but 2x2 on the ceiling, 2x2 on the wall and a 2x2 at the corner with 1/2" plywood to wrap it is fast, easy, uses up waste material and gives solid fastening for drywall/cornerbead.
we have to do it here too
__________________
CK Carpentry
chris klee is offline  
Old 01-22-2012, 08:54 PM   #19
Pro
 
JT Wood's Avatar
 
Trade: carpenter
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Calgary Ab Canada
Posts: 3,587
Rewards Points: 2,560

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinstaafl View Post
I learned it as "bulkhead". Soffit is under the eaves of a house. The one that's perfectly descriptive but always gives me a "huh?" moment is "eavestroughs".


around here an eavestrough is a 5" aluminum channel
__________________
Airdrie AB Renovation Contractor | Kitchen Renovations | Basement Developments | Facebook
JT Wood Construction Serves Airdrie, Cochrane, Olds, Mountainview, Rockyview and Crossfield, Alberta.
JT Wood is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to JT Wood For This Useful Post:
Brutus (01-22-2012)
Old 01-22-2012, 09:23 PM   #20
KemoSabe
 
loneframer's Avatar
 
Trade: residential framing/siding/general carpentry
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Vineland, New Jersey
Posts: 14,233
Rewards Points: 12,218

Re: Framing Bulkheads?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinstaafl View Post
I learned it as "bulkhead". Soffit is under the eaves of a house. The one that's perfectly descriptive but always gives me a "huh?" moment is "eavestroughs".
Well along the coast, a bulkhead holds the land from slipping into the water and runs around 1000 bucks a foot, to start.

You tell a HO they need a bulkhead, they start to have convulsions.

Advertisement

__________________
__________________________________




"Walking the fine line between production and perfection"




__________________________________
loneframer is offline  


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Chappell Framing Square Kent Whitten Tools & Equipment 122 05-31-2012 02:48 PM
Help Wanted: Roof Framing Job near Charlotte, North Carolina modfab Help Wanted or Looking For Work 0 01-22-2012 06:23 AM
Framing Documents To Die For NC2X4 Framing 33 09-17-2010 10:45 AM
Framing Safety Safety Guy Tools & Equipment 3 08-13-2009 08:46 PM
Commercial wood framing mckellarman Commercial Construction 2 05-06-2009 05:11 PM

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
Drywall Talk is for
PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTORS ONLY!

At DrywallTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?