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Old 01-28-2016, 09:51 PM   #61
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This is absolutely ridiculous we let this idiot post on here...

Now he is defying a SE....

with what he thinks should be done....

The entertainment value is over.

A world cruise may be an option.....
I do not spot anyone call me idiot in this tread until you show up. We had good conversation. Should I be expert for headers installation. Did I say ever at this forum it?
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Old 01-28-2016, 09:53 PM   #62
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Yeah, it'd be a 5K job up here, finished to primer on the wallboard.

But WTF do I know? You feed us bits & pieces of information, Eric has got it covered 100%, clearly WindWash has been down the road before too. It doesn't have to be hard - it does have to be well thought out.





You did WHAT???!!!

please please don't tell me chit like that....
I didnít get seriously hurt. Minor scratch.
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I do not spot anyone call me idiot in this tread until you show up. We had good conversation. Should I be expert for headers installation. Did I say ever at this forum it?
The point Griz is making is you are questioning an SE about a job that you have no experience doing. It's not like you have tens of these projects under your belt.
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So you think engineering is actually good so far? But I donít se it worth 45$/hour. Look like massive pain in .... . Did remove sheetrock for access (1í at each side of wall) and build support wall so far.
I really doubt the engineer is at 45/ hr. Doesn't matter how much of a pain, you either saw the plans and bid accordingly or are working by the hour so it doesn't matter. Can you post a picture of the plans with the structural red lines?
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Tipi, you can come help us set 2- 20" wide 37' long LVL's in a couple weeks.
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Really? Not how I would have pictured you
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The point Griz is making is you are questioning an SE about a job that you have no experience doing. It's not like you have tens of these projects under your belt.
Then is my main customer idiot too. He lifted so far like 20 houses with LVL headers. I had conversation with him today about this topic. However it is OK. If I remember I call you here idiots and clowns too. However I think we just had I good conversation.
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Oh yeah, my avatar....I forgot.
I was thinking more like Jesse Ventura in Predator.
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I really doubt the engineer is at 45/ hr. Doesn't matter how much of a pain, you either saw the plans and bid accordingly or are working by the hour so it doesn't matter. Can you post a picture of the plans with the structural red lines?
I will see plan tomorrow. Maybe will contact you. First will call my main customers framing guy that help him with that lvl headers if he want chime in. Schedule at that projects are he do headers and lifting with jacks and I do all other framing (stairs, roof) and trim.
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Man, these guys must see you coming from a mile away. How about pricing it like a real job?
The most truth said so far in this thread.
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Then is my main customer idiot too. He lifted so far like 20 houses with LVL headers. I had conversation with him today about this topic. However it is OK. If I remember I call you here idiots and clowns too. However I think we just had I good conversation.
You're missing the point. What he is doing has nothing to do with what you are doing. The center beam in my basement is a 3-9.25LVL and a 4-11.75LVL over another section. But none of them are a 20' span. You are comparing apples and oranges.
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I was thinking more like Jesse Ventura in Predator.
We're both older now...

I say "older" in the kindest way
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Tipi is a lucky SOB....

he just won a 30 day cruise......
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I do not spot anyone call me idiot in this tread until you show up. We had good conversation. Should I be expert for headers installation. Did I say ever at this forum it?
Here is my portfolio http://s252.photobucket.com/user/bbs...?sort=3&page=1
I would like to see yours.
Yes, you should be a least competent at header installation if you are going to bid/do the work. Here's the deal with engineers. Unless you have the experience to question that some thing is seriously wrong, you do exactly what is shown on the plans. Don't add structural screws to hangers unless called for or decrease the size of the members of a beam. Just follow the plan.
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Tipi is a lucky SOB....

he just won a 30 day cruise......
What does 30 day cruise mean?
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What does 30 day cruise mean?
It means we won't be seeing Griz's portfolio anytime soon, and we won't be seeing Tipi on CT for 30 days.

A timeout if you will...
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It means we won't be seeing Griz's portfolio anytime soon, and we won't be seeing Tipi on CT for 30 days.

A timeout if you will...
don't worry Griz will be here, tipi won't.....
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Tipi I would approach the job like this...

1, you have already supported the joists and cut back the sheetrock.

2, install diagonal bracing from top of exterior wall every 6 feet towards center wall

3, cut joists to accomodate beam. You can do this from above or below.

4, install beam. You can also do this from above or below.

If you are short of help you can set all your trimmers in place (should all be in place before setting beam)
And drop in one LVL at a time, attach hangers.

If you can round up the help, you can remove the wall first and set the beam pre assembled. I would be sure to have some people help that have done this several times if you go this route.





What you should under no circumstances do is decide for yourself that the SE specd and stamped plan is overkill or ridiculous no matter how much you think it is. Sure it is more work but you are charging by the hour and are charging extra on top of it. Make it take a day and a half or 2 whole days to set.

If you change it and something happens, it is your ass buddy.
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don't worry Griz will be here, tipi won't.....
Did Tipi get vacation while I was spelling out how he should approach the job?
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