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Old 09-05-2012, 10:52 PM   #101
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Old 09-05-2012, 10:59 PM   #102
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Do you like the direct connect? I've got the same model and that feature kinda annoys me to be honest. I finally gave in and bought a cord that lives on the saw permanently.
I got rid of the Bosch saws I had just because of that BS cord connection... just wasn't worth the aggravation....
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you don't want you get me going on those Hemroid saws
see there you go bashing up the hemorrhoids. You get them from all that saw weight hanging from rafters!!
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I have used the Skil 77 for over 20 years and have yet to find a more reliable tool. I don't find the weight to be an issue and I also like the extended reach a worm drive provides. I do have one sidewinder and it is a Bosch. The only reason I bought it was because my lefty 77 got ripped off and I needed it that day, so I bought it until I could find a left hand 77 replacement. I think the Bosch is an alright saw, although all I have used it for is cheek cuts on rafter birdsmouths. I actually like the Bosch cord to handle plug system. I bought a Bosch worm drive because of it, but it just didn't have the same feel as the Skil, so it sits in my shop with it's little brother Bosch sidewinder keeping it company.
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Wormdrives cut more stable. I have a skill mag77 with a skyhook, Bosch table for 55 degree miter, 50' cord and osha twist lock plug. If i want i can get a bigfoot adapter for a 10" blade to cut 4x in one pass. If i complained about the weight of my saw, y would i carry and spread 10 2x4 studs at a time or 2-3 20' 2x6 plate at once or shoot a 10' 6x10 header? feels like sidewinders always want to cut arches in reverse! only benefit is to own both just for opposite table bevel of wormdrive.
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As far as I'm concerned... I didn't know a wormdrive from a hole in the ground. Sidewinders are what I grew up with. I could never really get adjusted to the whole "look-over-the-saw-to-see-the-line" fiasco. Then I stumbled upon a wormdrive and found the proverbial "cat's pajamas".

I myself can consider fact:
Easy line of sight (the line is RIGHT there!!!)
Gravity does the work. Tilt the 2x down and away, line it up like Larry Haun taught you, and let it fly. Square cuts every time.
I find there to be better control when ripping sheet goods.
More power, less bogging down.

Heavy? Yes.

I find if I lift the saw with my whole arm more so than just my wrist, less strain.

I consider these to be FACTS of why I prefer a wormdrive over a Sidewinder.

Edit: big thumbs, small screen, sent on accident. Maybe a mod can delete the unfinished post. Thanks.
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:32 AM   #107
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Well he!! if Larry Haun uses a Skill WormDrive that must be the saw to use And look at all the production stuff that is adopted to it Must be a great saw if it is the base of so many great tools
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Well he!! if Larry Haun uses a Skill WormDrive that must be the saw to use And look at all the production stuff that is adopted to it Must be a great saw if it is the base of so many great tools
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0hpcqzEOc8">YouTube Link</a>
I bet Mike Holmes used one too. So there's the proof.
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I saw Holmes use the ridgid wormy one time
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The crazy fast framing crew that all the GC's here get use sidewinders and take the blade guards off. Cut and throw it on the ground in a graceful way that leaves the blade spinning in the unright direction......can't argue with them. Haven't seen anyone that can come close to keeping up around here yet.
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Well he!! if Larry Haun uses a Skill WormDrive that must be the saw to use And look at all the production stuff that is adopted to it Must be a great saw if it is the base of so many great tools
+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.
I don't need no stinking trusses. Give me a Skil worm and a 25 oz and whala you gotta roof....oorah!!

Did you see a sw in that video
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I could watch Larry's video all day and all night....RIP!
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Dewalt sidewinder for me.. Light, goes to 55 degrees & has positive stops. What else do you really need to cut plywood and 2x
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I just can't grasp the whole "I can't see the line" talk-there is a window for that or looking from up top, side. Also with the SW bigger part of the platform is resting on the material that you cut when the line is close to the edge which makes for more stability.

As for the "Use the weight of the worm". I don't like working bent over all day long, so most of the time I'll have saw horses set up and SW works perfect.
It was mentioned before that the weight difference is not that great, but it's not the actual weight that makes it so heavy, at least not all of it- It's the prolongated shape with all the weight upfront.

I've worked with some guys who were set in their ways having worked for one company or one area most of their life, having used only stick guns for example or only worms, one time I got a job with a framing crew and they were making fun of my 22OZ Hammer, they all had small siding hammers ??? Others would bash the coil guns never having tried one etc. etc.

So I guess to sum it up, that means that framers are not the smartest bunch, as they say: "If you gotta be dumb - you gotta be tough"
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Well he!! if Larry Haun uses a Skill WormDrive that must be the saw to use And look at all the production stuff that is adopted to it Must be a great saw if it is the base of so many great tools
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0hpcqzEOc8">YouTube Link</a>
Can't say I have ever heard if him. I have to stop watching his videos or I'll do it all night... Thanks for that, I'll enjoy them!
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My favorite circular saw hands down is the Makita with the led light.
Back in 1985 i had two makitas with the bronze colored shroud they had electric brakes we used them till the just wore out probably 20 years or so.
I also have a makita worm drive that is nice for long seat cuts on rafters. you do have to get used to torque twist at first.
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My most favorite and (sometimes) least favorite circ saw is what I have in my hand... Beats the h*ll out of grabbing a Disston or sharp tooth.
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Late to the party, but I have also never seen a sidewinder used for framing, here in Calif., except by homeowners.

I've tried them and couldn't get used to them, plus they sounded so different.

I do use the 16" Makita, which I guess is a sidewinder. I also have used them for cutting posts. The lighter weight is a bonus there.
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I like this one after I put the 20' cord on it.

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I'm with redwood on this one, here in Cali I've never seen anything other than wormdrives on every job. Personally I'm a fan of the bosch 1677m, especially if you can get a first gen. one that was made in the USA. Otherwise I'll take a mag77 or a china bosch. The only time we use a sidewinder saw on a framing job is cutting fascia and barge rafters. 2 guys can cruise around with 2 different saws and run all the fascia on a building without flipping sticks or saws. Since this sidewinder is used so little we buy the cheap homeowner saws, they don't have a skyhook so they end up on the ground really easy. Maybe it's just regional thing but I've heard sidewinders referred to as "bob vila saws", for obvious reasons. Now if we're talking about sidewinder blades then that's a whole other animal . . .

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