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Old 04-06-2010, 08:14 PM   #21
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Please explain the terminology here...is this referring to spacing in inches-as in 6" from side and 12" inside the field or something else?
I am going to take a pretty good guess and say that it means 6" OC nailing on the edge of the panel, 12" OC nailing in the field. It's a standard minimum nailing pattern in earthquake country.
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Please explain the terminology here...is this referring to spacing in inches-as in 6" from side and 12" inside the field or something else?
Yeah 6 in 12, 6 inches on all edges, blocking and studs, 12 in the field. I think we made it 6 in 12, I don't really remember now. I was surprised there was no shear schedule on the elevator shaft walls we did. Seems to me those tall skinny walls would be affected quite a bit in an earthquake, the shear should have some design to it. I guess since the top is supported, maybe it's o.k.

I think in Delaware you guys don't have shear nailing schedules. West coast seismic zones are a little stricter.
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Get with the elevator company and they will let you know where they need solid blocking - mine was LVL for both (commercial)

I have done Timber Strand (42' long engineered 2x8 studs) and then I have also built them from floor to floor.



The elevator needs to be anchored at certain spots and you will provide that anchoring. That's about it.

We had to install 2 layers of DensGlass on the inside.








And prepare for the elevator guys.....they seem to have a God complex...but that's just my opinion.
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I'm going to meet the home owners this evening----She has a new idea on the location----I will have to demo the ceiling or floor just to see if the option exists. I'll keep you postd.

Thanks for all the help. She hopes to pull out an unneeded stairway--right were it meets a sunken living room.
Naturally the stair opening is to small---

We are trying to get our hands on the original plans--I've never seen framing that actually matches an architects drawings.

So a little surgery is required!!!!---Mike---
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Ive always wondered if residential elevators need to be vented in any way. The motor / mechanism Im sure warms up a certain amount and I could see it needing a way to breath and cool off...
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Ive always wondered if residential elevators need to be vented in any way. The motor / mechanism Im sure warms up a certain amount and I could see it needing a way to breath and cool off...
What's up Brian?
The last few I saw installed worked by hydrolic ram and the equipment wasn't inside the shaft. I'll try to get progress pics when they start the one in the Uber Mansion. We may actually be hanging rock by the fall.
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Ive always wondered if residential elevators need to be vented in any way. The motor / mechanism Im sure warms up a certain amount and I could see it needing a way to breath and cool off...
None of the units I have ever done required venting. The hydraulic units typically have there own machine room in close proximity to the shaft and the winding drum units attach right to the tower of the units. The winding drum units produce very little heat. We have also seen vertical platform lifts that have an acme screw inside the tower. Downside to those is it's a b*tch to crank them down if you have a power failure and don't have battery backup
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My boss had a couple of the finished pics.
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I used to install residential lifts. Can't help much on the framing, I was rarely if ever there that early, and someone else did the specs.

I will say that the plumb issue is important, but as someone mentioned most lifts have some adjustability. I did one that they had reduced the dimensions of the shaft by an inch or two. I got it in but it involved some creativity. There are some rare ones I ran into that are pickier. Straighter the better.

Loneframer had some good input earlier on the landings and things like that. I had to go back on a job once and add 1x and 2 x lumber to different landings to make it pass. Tried to clean it up a bit, but it was a style that you can see out of in travel. So it really looked like crap. Fortunately, it was a handicap issue,so they were glad to have it no matter what the shaft looked like.
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Thanks for all the input! I enjoy doing something different.---Mike--

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