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Old 09-25-2010, 08:48 AM   #1
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whats your biggest mess up you done on a job one of mine was i put the wrong floors in the wrong rooms , now someone elses turn
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Old 09-25-2010, 08:54 AM   #2
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5000 SQ FT Brazilian walnut flooring over radiant, hit the pex in 3 separate places. Turned the system on, customer says floor looks funny........had to change out 2000 SqFT of buckled flooring. That was my biggest screwup to date, happened about 17 years ago, remember it like it was yesterday. GMOD...

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Do they make a “load mouth” for pex?
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Do they make a “load mouth” for pex?
Load Mouth ?
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Dropped a gable end over the side....two stories up......HO was watching and even got it on video tape....
I had to buy the concrete floor guy a new power finisher......landed right on it....lol
15years ago

I still have the tape....i would love to find out how to post it....it would get a few laughs for sure
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Load Mouth ?
Yes “load mouth” is a device that is hooked up to your electric floor heating system that detects a break in the system.
http://www.sun-touch.com/faq/suntouch-faq.html
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Yes “load mouth” is a device that is hooked up to your electric floor heating system that detects a break in the system.
http://www.sun-touch.com/faq/suntouch-faq.html
Asooooo, this F..up was water, (radiant) water leaked out of the hit pex tubes, buckled the flooring, we rarely use electric radiant. GMOD
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They make a similar product for pex. You pressurized the system and if you should penetrate a line the “load mouth” with sound off. Not a pleasant sound, especially if HO is home
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Do they make a “load mouth” for pex?

Dave, the only thing we do use are pressure gauges on the manifold. This will only tell us if we are holding pressure or not. After that it's just looking for signs of water.GMOD
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The pressure gage is usually out of sight, out of mind and depending on the puncture the gage may move to slow to pick up that it’s leaking. That’s what great about the load mouth, if puncture everyone knows including the neighbors its load!
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5000 SQ FT Brazilian walnut flooring over radiant, hit the pex in 3 separate places. Turned the system on, customer says floor looks funny........had to change out 2000 SqFT of buckled flooring. That was my biggest screwup to date, happened about 17 years ago, remember it like it was yesterday. GMOD...
WOW.........How'd you feel that day?.............I hope you can laugh about it now
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dumbest thing I've done so far was somehow mix 5/8 and 1/2 DW on a lid.

I cannot offer any explanation...A good buddy of mine helped and to this day we can't figure out what happened.

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I think how big you mess up is determined by how big your decisions are. I like to tell my guys when I mess up it is equivalent to them nailing the stud to the wrong side of the "X" I have made some real doozies in my day and have shared them here in other threads. What makes a craftsman is not how often or how bad you mess up, it's what you do afterwords.
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Posting a discontinued mitersaw as a reference. Oh, on the job.

Doing a surround for a shower with a sloped long-wall. Instead of measuring from my level line, I measured from the ceiling and the angle was off an inch.
Made a new wall with the correct measurements.
That's all I can think of for now.
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after the plumber had run his water lines i had to repair a section of the floor was closed back in, i had to cut up the floor. didnt know the plumber didnt strap his water pipes, they were right up under the sheathing so i cut a 1" line clean in half, the lines werent open for another few days, the plumber came back and turned the water on... the living room ceiling below was wrecked and a good portion of the hardwood was soaked
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after the plumber had run his water lines i had to repair a section of the floor was closed back in, i had to cut up the floor. didnt know the plumber didnt strap his water pipes, they were right up under the sheathing so i cut a 1" line clean in half, the lines werent open for another few days, the plumber came back and turned the water on... the living room ceiling below was wrecked and a good portion of the hardwood was soaked
This #2 reason why I tell my guys to set the depth on the saw for the material your cutting
#1 reason being safety, and it saves my horses
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This #2 reason why I tell my guys to set the depth on the saw for the material your cutting
#1 reason being safety, and it saves my horses

Agreed but sometimes its unavoidable. I was cutting 2' off the bottom of the roof sheathing that was rotten on a junk trailer the other day. At most the saw blade was 1/8 deeper than the cut. When they ran all the circuits for the trailer each one came up through the top plate and looped through the trusses. 3 of the wires were tight to the bottom of the sheathing, nicked one of them. Really pissed me off.....
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WOW.........How'd you feel that day?.............I hope you can laugh about it now

Had a major knot in my stomach that would not leave until the leaks where fixed and the floor was repaired, luckily we where in the midst of a two year renovation so the HO was not moved in yet......On a happy note all the cupped flooring that I pulled out was cleaned up, run through a plainer and used in my house for panel walls in my basement home theatre. GMOD
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i should mention we had a few other problems similar to this do to that plumber, he kept running his water lines hard up under the floor sheathing so there were a number of times where the lines were hit by ring nails or screws putting down underlay or screwing old floor boards back down. he also would have us open up ceilings to reroute water lines which we'd leave open. a few days after we'd ask if is was ok to close them back in, he said good to go. even though he hadnt connected teh water lines from the old route to the new... more damaged ceilings. and a new plumber , no problems with the new guy except he had to leave early one day to pick up the youngster
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after the plumber had run his water lines i had to repair a section of the floor was closed back in, i had to cut up the floor. didnt know the plumber didnt strap his water pipes, they were right up under the sheathing so i cut a 1" line clean in half, the lines werent open for another few days, the plumber came back and turned the water on... the living room ceiling below was wrecked and a good portion of the hardwood was soaked
That reminds me. One of my first bathroom remodels, I was cutting out a fiberglass unit in a condo using a saws-all. Little did I know, there was a gas line and both water supply lines running outside of the studs. I was lucky the water lines were on top.

Little clean up and build the wall out. But it scared the crap out of me. Learn from my mistakes, it might just save your life!

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