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Old 05-30-2020, 05:48 AM   #1
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What Is The Best Way Of Attaching Slides To Cabinet Back Panel


In the following below video slide rear brackets are used to attach slides to the cabinet back panel. Would you recommend adding a cleat to the bottom of those rear brackets for additional support. Since the back panel is usually made up of thin material.

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I wouldn’t recommend those slides or that install.

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I wouldn’t recommend those slides or that install.

What's wrong with the slides?


I've personally quit using back brackets because I don't like the flex that comes with using them.
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What's wrong with the slides?


I've personally quit using back brackets because I don't like the flex that comes with using them.
You’re right, I meant those back brackets.
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Many times if I have to retrofit slides I will add 1/4 or 1/2" ply to the back just to stiffen it up. With those sidemount full extension slides I use the heavy duty brackets like the ones KV makes with a nut and bolt
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I've personally quit using back brackets because I don't like the flex that comes with using them./QUOTE]

Why would flex be issue. And how would youve installed those slides
differently.
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We use 1/2" backs on our cabinets. Except for the Blum HD under mounts or where a side aligns, they get the Blum rear bracket.

Blum does not make a rear bracket for the HD’s.

Never noticed any flex using the rear brackets.

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I've personally quit using back brackets because I don't like the flex that comes with using them./QUOTE]

Why would flex be issue. And how would youve installed those slides
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There are other types of slides with back brackets that spread the load out better.
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This is the kind I like. The video doesn’t show it but the brackets have 2 ~1/4” tabs that fit into the cabinet backs so the screws aren’t really needed to support the load of the drawers.




Like these.


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Never noticed any flex using the rear brackets.

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Fully extended, pushing sideways on drawers you haven't had them flex more? I have, to the point of bending or popping out of the brackets. Caused more than one call back, which is why I quit using them. I'll block the side of the cabinet even with the face frame. Usually, I actually make 4 uprights that go all the way to the cabinet floor & drill them with line boring machine & use euro screws to hold them to the uprights. Then attatch the uprights to the cabinet side. The line bored holes make it quick & easy to install adjustable height pullouts.


I don't know if that made sense, I'll try to remember to take a picture of the uprights I make for this purpose when I go down to the shop.

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This is the kind I like. The video doesn’t show it but the brackets have 2 ~1/4” tabs that fit into the cabinet backs so the screws aren’t really needed to support the load of the drawers.
Tab holes are actually 5mm.
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Fully extended, pushing sideways on drawers you haven't had them flex more? I have, to the point of bending or popping out of the brackets. Caused more than one call back, which is why I quit using them. I'll block the side of the cabinet even with the face frame. Usually, I actually make 4 uprights that go all the way to the cabinet floor & drill them with line boring machine & use euro screws to hold them to the uprights. Then attatch the uprights to the cabinet side. The line bored holes make it quick & easy to install adjustable height pullouts.


I don't know if that made sense, I'll try to remember to take a picture of the uprights I make for this purpose when I go down to the shop.
the snap in brackets to come apart but the ones with a small nut and pan head bolt never come apart
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the snap in brackets to come apart but the ones with a small nut and pan head bolt never come apart
Who makes the small nut and pan head bolt brackets
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Who makes the small nut and pan head bolt brackets
I think KV (Knape Vogt )does
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Fully extended, pushing sideways on drawers you haven't had them flex more? I have, to the point of bending or popping out of the brackets. Caused more than one call back, which is why I quit using them. I'll block the side of the cabinet even with the face frame. Usually, I actually make 4 uprights that go all the way to the cabinet floor & drill them with line boring machine & use euro screws to hold them to the uprights. Then attatch the uprights to the cabinet side. The line bored holes make it quick & easy to install adjustable height pullouts.


I don't know if that made sense, I'll try to remember to take a picture of the uprights I make for this purpose when I go down to the shop.
Which slide are you using. You’d have to snap the cabinet in half to get a Blum under mount to pop out of the rear bracket.

We use the steel rear brackets.

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He’s using side mount full extensions from the picture
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Which slide are you using. You’d have to snap the cabinet in half to get a Blum under mount to pop out of the rear bracket.

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Side mount bearing slides, KV. In the past it was cheap imports.

I don't even use the rear brackets on blum tandems anymore. Just feel I get a better build with the system I described above.
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tab holes are actually 5mm.
~1/4”
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~1/4”

Industry standards have gone to 5mm. Multi hole boring machines are set up in metric. Line boring machines are setup to 32mm on center. All the hardware I buy, is setup to accommodate these machines.

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