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Old 02-26-2015, 11:09 PM   #41
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no mention of where in cali....Im swammped, booked 2-3 months out at a time, and turn down work at least once a week to someone wanting to start asap......
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Old 02-26-2015, 11:19 PM   #42
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no mention of where in cali....Im swammped, booked 2-3 months out at a time, and turn down work at least once a week to someone wanting to start asap......
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Old 02-26-2015, 11:20 PM   #43
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Im in San Rafael, lotsa money in Marin, lotsa work. Takes me 35 minutes to get downtown SF, lots and lots of work there. Pretty much work everywhere.

Everyday driving around town makes me hungry to get back out on my own... Cargo trailer full of tools just crying to be used. Soon enough.
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Im in San Rafael, lotsa money in Marin, lotsa work. Takes me 35 minutes to get downtown SF, lots and lots of work there. Pretty much work everywhere.

Everyday driving around town makes me hungry to get back out on my own... Cargo trailer full of tools just crying to be used. Soon enough.
I loved San Rafael. Some of the most expensive dirt in the U.S. is in that area.
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I'm in a similar boat, I had a super busy summer last year, but I've been pretty slow all winter. It's really starting to stress me out. I've been debating hangin it up and getting a job, but it's a hard decision. I actually just got an unsolicited job offer from a design build company out here. I looked over their website, and it looks like they do nice work. It could be nice to just someone else handle the risk for a while and let me just focus on being a better carpenter.

I'm mulling it over in my head right now, I'd just hate to quit after coming this far.

Luckily the phone has started to ring a bit. I just sold a nice trim job yesterday. That should lead to more work down the line too.
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Last winter was painfully slow, then got busy like old times with a backlog all summer and fall with regular calls. Did have work after christmas but calls were coming in early January. Soon as the weather turned a few weeks in things flatlined. The few things I have now are outside and I cant string together a decent week of weather. Im afraid if I start figuiring costs for a 9 month work year my rates will hurt sales.
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Last winter was painfully slow, then got busy like old times with a backlog all summer and fall with regular calls. Did have work after christmas but calls were coming in early January. Soon as the weather turned a few weeks in things flatlined. The few things I have now are outside and I cant string together a decent week of weather. Im afraid if I start figuiring costs for a 9 month work year my rates will hurt sales.
Aint that the truth, I get underbid enough as it is. Pricing for 3 months of down time would kill me.

I need to get a plow next year I think.
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Aint that the truth, I get underbid enough as it is. Pricing for 3 months of down time would kill me.

I need to get a plow next year I think.
Thats the whole bitch....cant get the right money now, increasing costs on everything around us drives people to lower bids.
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Aaron and Tom hang in there. All of my wifes family are east coast and I know things have been tough there weather and all. After going through the 70s 80s and still this one worse by far, eating beans and potatoes are not strange to me and at times wondering how I was even going to manage that. Thank the big boss above I was able to make it through without working for an outside source. Kids are long gone now and all is paid for. However all cases are different. Waiting for the next boom myself and figure one more will carry me through. Having a good banker putting me on unfinished short sales here in south Tx. is my current market. I think being well versed in several trades has really helped me. Tough thing for me is keeping my guys busy. On the other hand my lead man has a lot of good connects and fills a lot of gaps. Keep your head up and do what you have to. Make as many contacts as possible even if working for somebodt else. Again hang in and good luck
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seems to be a big change in weather these last two years hear in wine for sure .i am used to being off alot feb and march but all this sunshine and i had a bit of room in nov, dec and but no down time .I do not advertise and yet I even getting phone calls this month.I think the sunshine is getting peoples spring time excitement going .
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Aaron and Tom hang in there. All of my wifes family are east coast and I know things have been tough there weather and all. After going through the 70s 80s and still this one worse by far, eating beans and potatoes are not strange to me and at times wondering how I was even going to manage that. Thank the big boss above I was able to make it through without working for an outside source. Kids are long gone now and all is paid for. However all cases are different. Waiting for the next boom myself and figure one more will carry me through. Having a good banker putting me on unfinished short sales here in south Tx. is my current market. I think being well versed in several trades has really helped me. Tough thing for me is keeping my guys busy. On the other hand my lead man has a lot of good connects and fills a lot of gaps. Keep your head up and do what you have to. Make as many contacts as possible even if working for somebodt else. Again hang in and good luck

In reality, I really don't see myself throwing in the towel just yet. I just sold a job yesterday, that really lifted my spirits a bit. Its funny how excited I can get over a little 3500 dollar job when I'm this slow. But this job should lead to more work from this couple. They seem to have really nice taste, and have a lot of projects they want to get taken care of. It's nice when people find you organically and it works out.

I'm working on a railing bid for a clients in-laws right now. I do have some exterior jobs lined up for when the weather breaks. I'm waiting to hear back on a few too.

I've been working on my house for the past two weeks straight which is a weird feeling. This is the slowest I've been since I started out. But it seems like it should start picking up somewhat soon.
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Aaron, I checked out your FB page, really nice work.

My business is new so I can't offer any advice. But I really hope everything picks up.
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Thanks jb.I'm pretty sure I'll make it. Sometimes it just seems like it would be easier to just go back to being an employee.

If I don't make it, at least I know I can fall back onto something.
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In reality, I really don't see myself throwing in the towel just yet. I just sold a job yesterday, that really lifted my spirits a bit. Its funny how excited I can get over a little 3500 dollar job when I'm this slow. But this job should lead to more work from this couple. They seem to have really nice taste, and have a lot of projects they want to get taken care of. It's nice when people find you organically and it works out.

I'm working on a railing bid for a clients in-laws right now. I do have some exterior jobs lined up for when the weather breaks. I'm waiting to hear back on a few too.

I've been working on my house for the past two weeks straight which is a weird feeling. This is the slowest I've been since I started out. But it seems like it should start picking up somewhat soon.
Yea Aaron theres been times when I would have crawled on my hands and knees packing my chit to the gig for 3500. I well know how any job can lift spirits. I'm facing a double staircase with bender on both sides (round entry) and my fart box is blowing smoke rings. I'm just glad to have it. Trim man got to this point and walked or the money was funny. House is a high end short sale. Glad to have it though.
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Yea Aaron theres been times when I would have crawled on my hands and knees packing my chit to the gig for 3500. I well know how any job can lift spirits. I'm facing a double staircase with bender on both sides (round entry) and my fart box is blowing smoke rings. I'm just glad to have it. Trim man got to this point and walked or the money was funny. House is a high end short sale. Glad to have it though.
I love railing work. I'll try to take any I can get, as long as there is money in it. I've been waiting to hear back on a nice railing install on a new build. GC is kind of a cluster **** though.

Should be a nice job if I land it though. Components are already on site, just need an installer. Lots of turns and fittings to put in.

I'd love to do a curved staircase one of these days.
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Hang in there Aaron. I got a $2100 job starting on Friday that is going to pull me through this slow period and its a godsend!
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Got some walls to straighten out risers etc. before rail, but will get there. House been sitting @ half trim stage for months. Framing bad from jump but not abnormal for here. Big market for a good punch man here when it's blowing. After that it's mechanical trims etc. Guy that purchased house worked for government and can't understand change orders. other than that not bad. again glad to have it thanks to my banker. Jon, tech challenged old scholler here but will get there. Jaws p.m. me and I can't even do that. lol
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I am glad, in a way, to know it isn't just me that has had a slow winter. Not that I wish slow times on anyone. Some of the names I see having trouble are a bit surprising, though it is the nature of our chosen profession.

I have stayed just busy enough to keep us moving forward doing small jobs.

It is like Jaws said a while back. If you string enough small jobs together, you can make some decent money.

While I prefer a nice cushy full remodel, I have had the time to reprioritize things. Spent time with the family, started on the main bathroom and outbuildings in the pasture, and generally just got to know my family again after spending the last year or two running like a busy idiot.

I have two jobs to look at today that both need done this week, and then I have to get a proposal for a full bath remodel and a tiny shower wedge in so I can do the big one. Add in a floor that is aclimatizing in a house for next week and things have taken a sudden turn for the better.

Two weeks ago, all I had was the floor and a small kitchen to skim coat and paint. I really didn't know how it was going to play out.

So hang in there guys. We all have been there, and most of us will probably be there again. I always panic around February and then we seem to be blessed with work come March or so.


This year though, we are going to make a concerted effort to have some cash socked away for the slow down so we can enjoy it a bit more.

Well the clothes are dry, I'm heading out. Good luck everyone.
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Yeah, putting some cash away is pretty smart. I put away a bit, I'm really trying no to dip in to it anymore. I bought alot of tools and a van this summer, I probably should have cooled it a bit, but it seemed like I was gonna stay pretty busy. Then winter came and I had a bunch of cancellations and people change their minds before I even got a price sent out to them.

Lesson learned on that one.

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