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Old 06-25-2016, 08:27 PM   #1
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Wainscoting is time consuming. The foreman is a huge advantage but it still seems like there has got to be a way to get the stuff together faster.

Any experience in poplar? Splitting an issue?

The downfall of the gun would be that if you nail it wrong the whole piece is screwed whereas you have a couple minutes that you can still get a kreg/glue joint apart if you realize you flipped something backwards.

They are expensive tools and so is a box of fasteners but I'd really like to give it a try.

3 housed in a row have had 3/4 wainscoting.

These take a while moving a kreg FF clamp for every screw.




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I can't help but wonder what all those 8" pieces of finger-jointed poplar are going to look like in 30 years. Instead of wondering about getting a little faster I'd be looking at things like the dog-leg panels and window relationships.

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I can't help but wonder what all those 8" pieces of finger-jointed poplar are going to look like in 30 years. Instead of wondering about getting a little faster I'd be looking at things like the dog-leg panels and window relationships.
30 years? If the FJ they use around these parts is any indication, I give it 5 to 10 years...
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Kreg Framing Table, Ritter or Dotul frame racks.

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I can't help but wonder what all those 8" pieces of finger-jointed poplar are going to look like in 30 years. Instead of wondering about getting a little faster I'd be looking at things like the dog-leg panels and window relationships.
Job security. If we're replacing all the trim every home built in ft wayne all the better. I don't supply I just put it up.

I was speced a photo of the look they wanted which was panels in that proportion.

What would you have done different on the dog legs/window walls?
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I can't help but wonder what all those 8" pieces of finger-jointed poplar are going to look like in 30 years. Instead of wondering about getting a little faster I'd be looking at things like the dog-leg panels and window relationships.

Like a bunch of smaller pieces of wood showing through the paint in 4 years. Lol
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Like a bunch of smaller pieces of wood showing through the paint in 4 years. Lol
Ties in well with the termite infested barnboard siding in the adjacent room, and the diahrea distressed kitchen cabinet doors...
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Time to invest in a bunch of t-track and Kreg bench clamps, Spencer.
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Job security. If we're replacing all the trim every home built in ft wayne all the better. I don't supply I just put it up.
If that is your attitude then I don't believe I will have much to add to any of your posts.
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If that is your attitude then I don't believe I will have much to add to any of your posts.


Lighten up. It's called a joke. We all have to start somewhere. These rat holes with fj trim is the best I can do at the moment.

What am I supposed to do? Seriously what? That is what is getting put in new homes in ft Wayne. It's either use it or find a different profession.

I enjoy what I do and am having fun.
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If that is your attitude then I don't believe I will have much to add to any of your posts.
He does nice work, and seems passionate about what he does, and tries to learn new ways judgingby all of his posts. That says a lot. He's clearly joking about the job security. Sometimes we don't have a say in the materials or hand we've been dealt...
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I often work in poorly built tract homes here in California, and mostly with ****tty supplied to me, MDF millwork...I should kill myself...
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I damn near pee myself if I get to a job that has VG Doug fir.
Everything else is MDF around here... But I'm slowly getting out of that market, and I believe Spencer is too.
As far as the corrugated gun goes.... Spencer, you just want another toy😁
Don't you have a Dominio? I figured you'd be doing your Wainscot and frames with that.
Or if you're looking for speed, why not a biscuit /domino with a single Kreg screw for clamping?
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OK Spencer, this is me lighting up.

If you continue to do what you are doing then that is what you will be known for and that is what you will do so quite a while. If that is what puts dinner on the table I fully understand that. You want to be fast, that is a good goal but you haven't put in the time to study where the design comes from. If you don't know the roots of Architectural design then what you produce will reflect that. Regardless of the quality of the materials you have to work with it is up to the craftsman to know what is correct. If you are interested in learning that there are several books which I and others can suggest, if not then well then....
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Get Your House Right is a good read...
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I would love to work with some finger joint poplar.

You guy's don't know how good you have it until EVERYTHING is MDF. Even million dollar homes.
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I would love to work with some finger joint poplar.

You guy's don't know how good you have it until EVERYTHING is MDF. Even million dollar homes.
That's because it's MillionDollarFiberboard...
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OK Spencer, this is me lighting up.

If you continue to do what you are doing then that is what you will be known for and that is what you will do so quite a while. If that is what puts dinner on the table I fully understand that. You want to be fast, that is a good goal but you haven't put in the time to study where the design comes from. If you don't know the roots of Architectural design then what you produce will reflect that. Regardless of the quality of the materials you have to work with it is up to the craftsman to know what is correct. If you are interested in learning that there are several books which I and others can suggest, if not then well then....
i think you are right about having nothing more to add..
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OK Spencer, this is me lighting up.

If you continue to do what you are doing then that is what you will be known for and that is what you will do so quite a while. If that is what puts dinner on the table I fully understand that. You want to be fast, that is a good goal but you haven't put in the time to study where the design comes from. If you don't know the roots of Architectural design then what you produce will reflect that. Regardless of the quality of the materials you have to work with it is up to the craftsman to know what is correct. If you are interested in learning that there are several books which I and others can suggest, if not then well then....
I understand where you're coming from. At the same time, they didn't build rome in a day and you don't develop the design skill set overnight. I have and am spending more and more time studying the roots of architectural design but there are only so many hours in the day. At this point in my career and business development its not an understanding of architectural design the creates income, its being able to produce better quality work at a more efficient pace than others to the design specs I'm given.

I will continue to study these things and continue to work towards using more correct design elements with the builders I work for.

Last month I spent a lot of time on the JLC archives. Lots of good threads and great minds discussing these things in those days. Wish there were still more around that had a serious interest in these things.

We have a vacation at the lake coming up last week of July. Very relaxing week chillin on the lakeside. I'm hoping to take a few of these types of books along.
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I think the gun could work but you'll still have the hassle of alignment and keeping it flat. Biscuit or domino could be best bet. As far fingers joint in - 5 years.. it is what is. New construction homes need a face lift usually with in 5-7 years. Settlement, crack shrinkage etc...and repaint for sure because 95% of the painter's are not paid enough or too dumb to better a job the first time around. Spence your on the right track. You're Just looking for a better way. I don't see what the hassle is about. He's just a soldier following order's. Im sure if he or any of you were doing your own house(s) or flips it becomes another animal.
I would probably try and find to rent or buy from vendor that takes returns just in case. Clearly no here has done this before. So do a sample in your shop with the 8" fingers joint an see what happens.

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