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Old 03-18-2009, 04:32 PM   #21
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I'm pretty sure that Decide1 figured 5/8" because that is what the OP stated.

OP also stated that he added material to all treads EXCEPT the top landing(Which is a tread), therefore the difference is 5/8"---NOT IN CODE!

One problem here is we have 2 posters talking about 2 separate jobs.

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Look, I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything like that, just making an attempt to show the OP that he can't lay 5/8'' material on top of the treads. It's just a lawsuit waiting to happen.
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Old 03-18-2009, 04:45 PM   #22
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We don't know what was previously on the 1st floor and treads. If they went from all carpet to 5/8" wood and left carpet at the 2nd floor, might not be far off. Still sounds like a mess to me.

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Wow! I didn't think this post would stir up such a hornets nest.

Original flooring was carpet over linoleum. Carpet, pad and linoleum have been pulled up to expose original tongue and groove subfloor. 5/8" bamboo was installed on first floor over subfloor. I'm looking to wrap all steps up to the second floor. The skirt will just be painted by the home owner. I'm not sure what exactly is going on w/ the flooring up there, because the last riser is 1/2 higher than all the others. Whatever the flooring is, it is covered w/ lick and stick vinyl tiles. Eventually, the H.O. wants to put the same bamboo flooring in the second floor hallway to the "master bedroom". I will talk to them about pulling a few of the vinyl tiles to see what is going on w/ the floor up there before I commit to the work.

The differance in riser height is honestly something I didn't give much thought until you guys mentioned it. As of right now, the differance in the riser height will only be 1/8" on the last tread. This will actually bring the top step way closer than what they are dealing w/ right now.

The home owner was looking for something like what is pictured in this link. http://www.lumberliquidators.com/cat...productId=1459 Check out the pictures under the "reviews" tab.
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Hope I speak for everyone here by saying that I don't think there's a hornet's nest here LOL. Just a difference of opinion

Is this set of stairs open so many treads, then between walls?
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No. Its between the skirt boards all the way to the top.
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I admit I pictured something different, my mistake. If they were open anywhere with newels, spindles, open rail at the top it would be a completely different animal. Guess I pictured a worst case scenario cuz that's what generally happens to me My bad.

If laminating on top of the existing treads gets you within 1/8" of a constant rise to the top you should be fine.


If the existing stairs are solid and there's room on the skirt, if you were to cut off the nosing flush with the risers, add 3/4" to the riser flush with the top of the treads, then fit a tread overlay........ I think the remaining exposed void left from the previous tread nosing would be covered if you ran 1/4round in place of scosche.

I've never done a bamboo set of stairs, but a quick google search results plenty of places selling bamboo overlay treads, risers, and quarter round.
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Wow! I didn't think this post would stir up such a hornets nest.

Original flooring was carpet over linoleum. Carpet, pad and linoleum have been pulled up to expose original tongue and groove subfloor. 5/8" bamboo was installed on first floor over subfloor. I'm looking to wrap all steps up to the second floor. The skirt will just be painted by the home owner. I'm not sure what exactly is going on w/ the flooring up there, because the last riser is 1/2 higher than all the others. Whatever the flooring is, it is covered w/ lick and stick vinyl tiles. Eventually, the H.O. wants to put the same bamboo flooring in the second floor hallway to the "master bedroom". I will talk to them about pulling a few of the vinyl tiles to see what is going on w/ the floor up there before I commit to the work.

The differance in riser height is honestly something I didn't give much thought until you guys mentioned it. As of right now, the differance in the riser height will only be 1/8" on the last tread. This will actually bring the top step way closer than what they are dealing w/ right now.

The home owner was looking for something like what is pictured in this link. http://www.lumberliquidators.com/cat...productId=1459 Check out the pictures under the "reviews" tab.
I did something similar with 3/4 oak treads I made with 1 1/4" applied oak nosings and painted plywood risers. I cut the existing nosings off and before installing the replacement treads ran pocket hole screws through the existing treads into the stringers and counter sunk screws though the old treads into the risers. There was no access from underneath and this really tightened everything up nicely and eliminated the squeaks.

You should give riser height some thought though. In my situation 3/4" flooring was allready added on the first and second floor. If you are within an 1/8" at the top now and they add flooring up top that will put you 3/4" out at the top after they install flooring which is no good. That is if I understand what you're saying.

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You should give riser height some thought though. In my situation 3/4" flooring was allready added on the first and second floor. If you are within an 1/8" at the top now and they add flooring up top that will put you 3/4" out at the top after they install flooring which is no good. That is if I understand what you're saying.

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That is the situation. Although at this point I think that will be something to worry about down the road. I already spoke to my customer about it. For now I bought the tread nose and plan to start install tomorrow.
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Depending on how high the stringers are above the tread bullnose, you may be able to:

1) Cut off the existing bullnose flush with the face of the riser (or a little further back)

2) Hold up your new riser material to see how much of the dado will be exposed.

3) Put on a "backing riser" of at least the same thickness as what #2 tells you.

4) Put the real riser on top of that.

The only thing that will change will be that the landing riser at the head of the stairs will project that amount further out from where it would otherwise have been.

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