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Old 03-23-2008, 01:39 PM   #21
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Everyone usually thinks i am anal cuz i wont let them use my table or miter saw on site. I just tell them what my blades cost and they sometimes get the hint.
I can clearly recall a framer for a room addition unloading on a homeowner who was cutting up some of the old form lumber on the framer's miter saw. I thought for sure someone was going to die. The homeowner wanted to make a dog box out of the old form lumber.
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Old 03-23-2008, 01:42 PM   #22
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Mdshunk... Just use a chainsaw....:P

oh i would blow up on anyone using anyof my saws on old formwork lumber. First off it is covered in a thin layer of concrete which will dull the blade, and then its saturated with conrete aswell.
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I lock my saw down when I'm not on the job. And everyone knows not to touch it or anything else I own. I showed up to work one day and saw PVC shavings under my saw. Plumber was cutting his crap with my saw. I lock EVERYTHING. I can't stand welding burns and paint on my ladders. Disrespect if you ask me.
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There's three rules for keeping your saws sharp:

1- Never cut dirty or nail-embedded wood;

2- Never lend your saw to anyone;

3- If you have to cut dirty or nail-embedded wood, borrow someone's saw.
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Some here may disagree with this comment but Freud's entry level 12" blade which I believe is a 40 tooth will give you basicaly the same quality cuts as the 80 tooth for a good many cuts until it starts to dull(much sooner than the 80 tooth). Just take your cuts a little slower than you might otherwise. If you are mostly just using it for this one finish job I'd go w/ the 40 tooth @ about 35 smackers.
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I know 'bout lots of things, but finish carpentry isn't one of them. My dad was a good finish carpenter, but he used a mechanical miter box with a back saw.

I'm gonna play electrician here. I think you should hire a qualified carpenter to do the work. A saw in an electricians hands is just a disaster waiting to happen.

How does it feel?

An 80-100 tooth blade should suffice. Hitachi, Forrest, Freud are good blades. The Forrest ChopMaster is a very nice crosscut blade, about $120.
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A saw in an electricians hands is just a disater waiting to happen.
You might be right! Keep your eyes peeled for my obit in the Central PA newspapers.
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You might be right! Keep your eyes peeled for my obit in the Central PA newspapers.

I don't expect you to kill yourself MD. Just keep those digits on your hand, not in your other hand on the trip to the emergency room.
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I bought a FS Tool blade for $125 CDN last spring for my 12" mitre saw and it lasted all season without any need for sharpening. I've found Freud blades to be good but they don't even compare to the FS Tool one. Not sure if they're available around you but I've never used a better blade.
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I bought a FS Tool blade for $125 CDN last spring for my 12" mitre saw and it lasted all season without any need for sharpening. I've found Freud blades to be good but they don't even compare to the FS Tool one. Not sure if they're available around you but I've never used a better blade.
I probably wouldn't be able to get one for $125 CDN, because we have to pay with real money here in the states. They don't let us pay with Monopoly money.
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i try to never let framing or pt lumber touch my trim saw. soom guys swear that it doesn't matter, but i belive that it gets the blade dirty faster and therefore poorer quality cuts. this leads to some interesting comments when someone comes up with a 2x4 and says, that they are going to use my saw to make a cut. well just my 2 cents
I agree.
We never leave anything on the job site and when were there no one else dares to ask to use anything. We sometimes leave the ladders and scafolding but it all gets chained and locked together! About the sawblades, i like the 7 1/4" thin kerf Irwin/marithon for the circular saw. It just gives the saw that much more power. And at less than 10 bucks we build one house and throw it away. Where do you guys get the freud and other 12" blades? The only 12" ive seen is the $50 dewalt 60 tooth. and im not crazy about the 10" dewalt table saw blade either.
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I probably wouldn't be able to get one for $125 CDN, because we have to pay with real money here in the states. They don't let us pay with Monopoly money.
Ummmm, hate to break it to you, but you might want to check the exchage rates US vs CDN
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I'm running a 90 tooth Hitachi blade right now with good results-

http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-726101...sim_hi_title_2
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Anybody use Oldham blades? I have an 100 for Meleamine but it also cuts well in the Mitre saw too. Also what tooth orientation do you like or does it matter? I try to use Triple chip or ATB with a raker.
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I tried 2 different Oldham blades on my circular saw. They couldn't suck any worse than they did. I had 3 year old blades that cut better that those new out of the package.
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mdshunk,
What scms do you have? They are not all created equal.

Equally important factors for a good cut, are a snug slide bearing, & zeroed in the saw settings. In the end, they make sure that the blade tracks true.
A flat sharp blade, with accurate tooth set, even with fewer teeth, may be good enough, if you don't jam the saw though the cut. Even a heavy blade with uneven set, or uneven grind, will still drift in the cut, since it doesn't cut equally on both sides of the blade.

Hook angle is also a big part of accuracy, speed, & clean cut.
More hook makes for an easy cut, but is considered less safe due to it's more aggressive nature, especially in a cross slide saw. I tend to like a lot of hook in my blades, along with a thin kerf, but it"s not PC.

I'm sure any of the blades mentioned above would do just fine, including the Freud.
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Try not painting one of the face frames and see how you like it.
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Try not painting one of the face frames and see how you like it.
Like what?
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MD, I vote for the freud blades as well. I have had pretty good luck with the Freud 96 tooth Diablo, That blade will cut anything, it even says so on the package. When my blades get too dull for finish work I put them in my backup saw and cut aluminum porch posts and stuff like that with it. I could be wrong, but I think they are available at the Depot, I usually get mine from my lumber yard. And they are reasonably priced too.



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Freud is a good middle of the road blade but i never got much life out of them. I hate seeing the backside fray on any hardwood so i dont go for those blades that stay half sharp forever.

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