How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level? - Page 2 - Finish Carpentry - Contractor Talk

How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 07-06-2010, 05:25 PM   #21
New Guy
 
jjhomes's Avatar
 
Trade: Builder
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 24
Rewards Points: 10

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


Hold it up to the horizon.



I get a lot of guys with this one.
jjhomes is offline  

Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

   

Advertisement

 

Old 07-06-2010, 05:51 PM   #22
General Contractor
 
Willie T's Avatar
 
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: St. Petersburg, FL Minds of moderate caliber ordinarily condemn everything which is beyond their range.
Posts: 3,444
Rewards Points: 12

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


Quote:
Originally Posted by 480sparky View Post
I generally spin it 180° and see if I have the same bubble.
I tend to do this all the time... on any reading. I guess it's just a habit I got into.
__________________
"True eloquence consists in saying all that is necessary, and only that which is."
François Duc de La Rochefoucauld
Bill Everett - St. Petersburg, FL
Willie T is offline  
Old 07-06-2010, 05:51 PM   #23
Pro
 
jomama's Avatar
 
Trade: Concrete & masonry
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 899
Rewards Points: 170

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


Quote:
Originally Posted by stuart45 View Post
I flip my level round all the time when building a lead, that way I can usually find one of the bubbles reading plumb.

LMAO, It's probably the "painted on" bubble that's reading plumb then......

As others have said, flip the thing around every way possible.
jomama is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 07-06-2010, 06:36 PM   #24
Pompass Ass
 
bwalley's Avatar
 
Trade: Certified Building and Certified A/C Contractor
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Plant City, Florida
Posts: 2,090
Rewards Points: 1,000

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordy3738 View Post
I recently was on a job where I was checking the soffit to install a long run of cabinets on. The soffit was one inch out of level in about ten feet.

When I mentioned it to the contractor, he was very upset, even to the point of threatening to fire someone.

He later told me that someones level was not right.

This brought me to wonder about mine.

"Have I been installing cupboards for the past five years uneven?"

So how can you test to see if your level is level?
How could him or his guys not see it was that far out of level?

I can look at steel framing in my commercial job and tell if it is 1/8" out in 10'.
bwalley is offline  
Old 07-06-2010, 07:41 PM   #25
General Contractor
 
Willie T's Avatar
 
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: St. Petersburg, FL Minds of moderate caliber ordinarily condemn everything which is beyond their range.
Posts: 3,444
Rewards Points: 12

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


Maverick,

I'd say that is an inculcated skill that probably 90% of us just take for granted. But I know some pretty experienced contractors, as well as tradesmen, who honestly can't see those things without relying on mechanical aids. Strange, but true.
__________________
"True eloquence consists in saying all that is necessary, and only that which is."
François Duc de La Rochefoucauld
Bill Everett - St. Petersburg, FL
Willie T is offline  
Old 07-06-2010, 07:43 PM   #26
Pro
 
keith mathewson's Avatar
 
Trade: carpenter
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 268
Rewards Points: 426

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


If you install a full kitchen worth of cabinets and only use a level, even if you checked it every hour, you may be surprised at the variations if checked against a laser.
keith mathewson is offline  
Old 07-06-2010, 07:55 PM   #27
LRG WoodCrafting

 
Leo G's Avatar
 
Trade: Maker of Fine Sawdust
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Windsor Locks, Connecticut
Posts: 40,768
Rewards Points: 13,879

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


Who says your laser is level?
__________________
Sawdust Follows Me Everywhere
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Sanding is the bane of my existence
WWG1WGA

Quote:
Originally Posted by HusqyPro View Post
Carpenter by day.
Mad scientist by night.
http://lrgwood.com
Custom Cabinets in Hartford County Connecticut
Leo G is online now  
The Following User Says Thank You to Leo G For This Useful Post:
Willie T (07-07-2010)
Old 07-06-2010, 07:57 PM   #28
Curmudgeon
 
neolitic's Avatar
 
Trade: carpentry/remodeling/"Yes M'am we do"
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Beech Grove, Indiana, Birthplace of the "King of Cool"
Posts: 11,706
Rewards Points: 2,000

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


Quote:
Originally Posted by keith mathewson View Post
If you install a full kitchen worth of cabinets and only use a level, even if you checked it every hour, you may be surprised at the variations if checked against a laser.
Just look at how screwed up
those pyramids are.
If the poor bastards only had
lasers, they might have
got it right.....
__________________
Put your location in your profile!
(Sorry....it seems there really are dumb questions)
neolitic is offline  
Old 07-06-2010, 08:10 PM   #29
Pro
 
Cjeff's Avatar
 
Trade: Renovations
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 560
Rewards Points: 500

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


ALways check your levels, especially before you buy one.

I was in the store buying a cheap level for one time use as I was away from home and needed one and did not want to spend a lot. Grabbed one and checked it out using the flip it over method. Way out
Needless to say I bought a different one.
Cjeff is offline  
Old 07-06-2010, 08:15 PM   #30
Handle It!
 
MALCO.New.York's Avatar
 
Trade: Everything The Union Guys Do Not Want To Do
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Brooklyn, NY ~ Haverford, PA
Posts: 9,588
Rewards Points: 2,000

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo G View Post
Who says your laser is level?
When near a Black Hole?
__________________
Something to One may be Nothing to another!

Ultimate Wisdom---------
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW-cnizLDEE
MALCO.New.York is offline  
Old 07-06-2010, 08:22 PM   #31
LRG WoodCrafting

 
Leo G's Avatar
 
Trade: Maker of Fine Sawdust
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Windsor Locks, Connecticut
Posts: 40,768
Rewards Points: 13,879

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


A laser level is a delicate pc of electromechanical hardware. One good whack could make it a laser unlevel.

How do you check a laser level?
__________________
Sawdust Follows Me Everywhere
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Sanding is the bane of my existence
WWG1WGA

Quote:
Originally Posted by HusqyPro View Post
Carpenter by day.
Mad scientist by night.
http://lrgwood.com
Custom Cabinets in Hartford County Connecticut
Leo G is online now  
Old 07-06-2010, 08:23 PM   #32
Pro
 
keith mathewson's Avatar
 
Trade: carpenter
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 268
Rewards Points: 426

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


Quote:
Originally Posted by neolitic View Post
Just look at how screwed up
those pyramids are.
If the poor bastards only had
lasers, they might have
got it right.....
If I remember correctly the pyramids are thought to have been built using a form of a water trough to establish level. A water level is very accurate but not a fast to use as a laser.
keith mathewson is offline  
Old 07-06-2010, 08:24 PM   #33
Artisan Carpentry
 
basswood's Avatar
 
Trade: trim carpenter
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Paul, MN
Posts: 1,985
Rewards Points: 1,030

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo G View Post
A laser level is a delicate pc of electromechanical hardware. One good whack could make it a laser unlevel.

How do you check a laser level?
Duh? See if it has the word "level" printed on the case!
basswood is offline  
Old 07-06-2010, 08:30 PM   #34
KemoSabe
 
loneframer's Avatar
 
Trade: residential framing/siding/general carpentry
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Vineland, New Jersey
Posts: 14,233
Rewards Points: 12,218

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


Quote:
Originally Posted by basswood View Post
Duh? See if it has the word "level" printed on the case!
Ohhhhh, bass is in rare form this evening.
__________________
__________________________________




"Walking the fine line between production and perfection"




__________________________________
loneframer is offline  
Old 07-06-2010, 08:34 PM   #35
Pro
 
Rustbucket's Avatar
 
Trade: Remodel/Deck
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Jackson, MS
Posts: 1,861
Rewards Points: 1,748

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo G View Post
A laser level is a delicate pc of electromechanical hardware. One good whack could make it a laser unlevel.

How do you check a laser level?
Pretty much the same way. In a rectangular room, place the level against one wall and project across to the other side. A horizontal line will project a ways up the side walls, so mark one spot on each of those walls. Move the level to the opposite wall, and again project back the the first wall you projected from. Your new line should project equal distance from the marks you made on each side. Or, you can adjust the height of the level to hit both of the original marks.

For a dot laser, place the laser in the middle of the room, mark the dots, and flip the level 180 degrees and see if both sides hit the same dots.

Hope all this makes sense. The ramblings in my mind seem a lot clearer than the ramblings I write.
Rustbucket is offline  
Old 07-06-2010, 08:38 PM   #36
Pro
 
knucklehead's Avatar
 
Trade: Extraordinary Carpenter
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 3,485
Rewards Points: 2,728

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


I usually just stand back and look at it.
knucklehead is offline  
Old 07-06-2010, 08:50 PM   #37
Artisan Carpentry
 
basswood's Avatar
 
Trade: trim carpenter
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Paul, MN
Posts: 1,985
Rewards Points: 1,030

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


Quote:
Originally Posted by loneframer View Post
Ohhhhh, bass is in rare form this evening.
Hey, believe it or not, I'm just drinking milk tonight.

Actually my Ex just hauled off her crap over the weekend and left... and I'm now over being pissed off (mostly)... in the "good riddance" phase now. Much mo bedda.
basswood is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to basswood For This Useful Post:
dkillianjr (07-06-2010)
Old 07-06-2010, 08:52 PM   #38
LRG WoodCrafting

 
Leo G's Avatar
 
Trade: Maker of Fine Sawdust
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Windsor Locks, Connecticut
Posts: 40,768
Rewards Points: 13,879

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


OK, everyone ante up. We need to buy Bass a good time, lets call her Samantha.....
__________________
Sawdust Follows Me Everywhere
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Sanding is the bane of my existence
WWG1WGA

Quote:
Originally Posted by HusqyPro View Post
Carpenter by day.
Mad scientist by night.
http://lrgwood.com
Custom Cabinets in Hartford County Connecticut
Leo G is online now  
Old 07-06-2010, 08:53 PM   #39
Pro
 
knucklehead's Avatar
 
Trade: Extraordinary Carpenter
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 3,485
Rewards Points: 2,728

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustbucket View Post
Pretty much the same way. In a rectangular room, place the level against one wall and project across to the other side. A horizontal line will project a ways up the side walls, so mark one spot on each of those walls. Move the level to the opposite wall, and again project back the the first wall you projected from. Your new line should project equal distance from the marks you made on each side. Or, you can adjust the height of the level to hit both of the original marks.

For a dot laser, place the laser in the middle of the room, mark the dots, and flip the level 180 degrees and see if both sides hit the same dots.

Hope all this makes sense. The ramblings in my mind seem a lot clearer than the ramblings I write.
My mind sometimes has a mind of its own
knucklehead is offline  
Old 07-06-2010, 09:15 PM   #40
chief pencil holder
 
Scribbles's Avatar
 
Trade: Custom Cabinet Maker, Handrail
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: sacramento CA
Posts: 1,605
Rewards Points: 1,000

Re: How Can You Tell If A Level Is Level?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo G View Post
OK, everyone ante up. We need to buy Bass a good time, lets call her Samantha.....

i got 23.50 to donate

Advertisement

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Di View Post
Nothing you do as a professional should be for free. It's just a silly way of groveling for business if you think about it..
http://sacramentomillworks.com
Scribbles is offline  


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Taking business to next level SMA14 Business 7 05-07-2010 09:06 PM
Slope a deck or a level deck? wallmaxx Decks & Fencing 28 08-13-2009 12:36 AM
IS the ridge out of level? forsmant Framing 16 06-13-2009 10:12 AM
Entry level blower Philly Dude Insulation 6 03-21-2009 11:43 PM
Drywall Scratches - Level 5 Smoothwall HUNG BY FOOT Drywall 15 03-10-2009 05:19 AM

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
Drywall Talk is for
PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTORS ONLY!

At DrywallTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?