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DBCoop 03-14-2009 09:18 PM

Bass, I appreciate your frankness....sure I'd love the absolute best!!! We work with our hands and we want to create great work. Great post!!! We are all on that quest for balance. :thumbsup:

CarpenterMatt 03-14-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by basswood (Post 635717)
Festool makes fantastic tools with price tags you expect for the best. Festool is worthy of the attention it gets here and the devoted following is understandable. But...

I'm just too much of a tightwad to pay the Festool prices. :

Now listen here Mr Basswood! There is a bigger issue at stake in this discussion. Based on the above admission of "short arms long pocket syndrome", I have just realised the possibility that a man of your capability may very well go to your grave having never experienced the blissfull, zen like symbiotic pairing of man & woodworking machinery that only Festool can provide. I now face a very unsettling & disturbed weekend trying to digest this blasphemy.:cry: Thanks for that.:shutup: If, however, you would care to redeem yourself for this unforgivable disclosure, there is a small chance you could make all well again if you hurry out NOW & purchase a Domino. Yes, you will CERTAINLY thank us afterwards, but getting to the other side will be hard for you. Go to the tool shop, get the Domino, & close your eyes as you hand over the credit card. After that, its all easy, joy will be upon you.:notworthy

Kent Whitten 03-15-2009 07:19 AM

I think that all of us, when we are making a decision, we unconsciously ask ourselves "how quickly will I get my return on my money with this product" If it's expensive and you can see that it will produce more for you, then it may justify itself. If you find something similar that will get close results, maybe negligible, then you will opt for the lower priced one.

KMac 03-15-2009 08:10 AM

I see whats going on here - nice try Bass. This thread is obviously just a ploy to get Festool to send Bass some tools for him to "review" - given his proclivity for writing articles in prominent trade magazines. I predict in a couple years Bass will have a complete arsenal of Festools and will not have paid a cent! :w00t:

basswood 03-15-2009 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KMac (Post 636331)
I see whats going on here - nice try Bass. This thread is obviously just a ploy to get Festool to send Bass some tools for him to "review" - given his proclivity for writing articles in prominent trade magazines. I predict in a couple years Bass will have a complete arsenal of Festools and will not have paid a cent! :w00t:

I'm not smart enough or devious enough to have thought of that on my own... but that sounds like a good plan.:shifty:

Now if I can get everyone who has used one of my tips from the forums to send me a buck tip for each tip... then I might be able to be a Festoolian.:party:

basswood 03-15-2009 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CarpenterMatt (Post 636211)
Now listen here Mr Basswood! There is a bigger issue at stake in this discussion. Based on the above admission of "short arms long pocket syndrome", I have just realised the possibility that a man of your capability may very well go to your grave having never experienced the blissfull, zen like symbiotic pairing of man & woodworking machinery that only Festool can provide. I now face a very unsettling & disturbed weekend trying to digest this blasphemy.:cry: Thanks for that.:shutup: If, however, you would care to redeem yourself for this unforgivable disclosure, there is a small chance you could make all well again if you hurry out NOW & purchase a Domino. Yes, you will CERTAINLY thank us afterwards, but getting to the other side will be hard for you. Go to the tool shop, get the Domino, & close your eyes as you hand over the credit card. After that, its all easy, joy will be upon you.:notworthy

Matt,

As soon as a I can justify a Festool purchase that will pay for itself quickly... I'm in. My tool collection has most of the bases covered already. The Domino is interesting. It might justify itself, but much of what it does is done by tools I already have (biscuit joiner, Kreg jig, tenoning jig). Looking for the right job, that the Domino can do that the others can't.

I'm trying to be a solo trim carp, set up and run a wood shop, and support a wife and kids... the budget is tight. Always a balancing act.

I'm impressed by you Festoolians though,

Bass

Bergstrom 03-15-2009 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by basswood (Post 636372)
I'm trying to be a solo trim carp, set up and run a wood shop, and support a wife and kids... the budget is tight. Always a balancing act.

I'm impressed by you Festoolians though,

Bass

Amen to that! I think one thing that gets largely overlooked in these discussions is the importance of good tooling for your tools. A good blade or bit can turn the most impotent POS into a wood magician. I am always surprised when someone will drop pro athlete pay on a tool and then turn around and shoe it with a Wal-Mart clearance aisle blade.

Instead of thinking Festool we need start thinking
FS Tool, Lueco,Guhdo,Leitz,Amana and so on

basswood 03-15-2009 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bergstrom (Post 636414)
Amen to that! I think one thing that gets largely overlooked in these discussions is the importance of good tooling for your tools. A good blade or bit can turn the most impotent POS into a wood magician. I am always surprised when someone will drop pro athlete pay on a tool and then turn around and shoe it with a Wal-Mart clearance aisle blade.

Instead of thinking Festool we need start thinking
FS Tool, Lueco,Guhdo,Leitz,Amana and so on

Hi Berg,

Good blades are a big part of my game plan!:thumbsup:

Of course the mind and skills of the carpenter are still the main thing. I once took first place in a cycling race on an old steel frame bicycle. The bike also had a "luggage rack" on it and even a bike lock hanging on it. I was wearing regular shorts and a t-shirt. I managed to beat a few hundred other guys who had expensive carbon fiber or aluminum bikes and spandex outfits... I was in better shape, so I won. Well, it also helped that it got windy during the race and a bunch of them had disk wheels that were bad in the wind. Anyway, it was amusing.:party:

Bergstrom 03-15-2009 10:38 AM

:laughing: For some reason my mind's eye is picturing lime green carbon fiber wheels with dual laser guided ground tracking

WarnerConstInc. 03-15-2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by basswood (Post 636372)
Matt,

I'm trying to be a solo trim carp, set up and run a wood shop, and support a wife and kids... the budget is tight. Always a balancing act.

Bass

You got that part right!!

I will agree with others, once you put your hands on a Domino or a TS saw, it will be all over!!

john5mt 03-18-2009 12:54 AM

http://www.eurekazone.com/images/gal...rgallery1.html

Why are they using a festool router to demonstrate their product.....hmmm:rolleyes:

CarpenterMatt 03-18-2009 01:28 AM

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http://www.eurekazone.com/images/gal...rgallery1.html

Why are they using a festool router to demonstrate their product.....hmmm:rolleyes:

Yeah....& if I had to do that groove, I'd use one of these.:laughing:

basswood 03-18-2009 09:44 AM

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http://www.eurekazone.com/images/gal...rgallery1.html

Why are they using a festool router to demonstrate their product.....hmmm:rolleyes:

Hi John,

That is goofy. If I you have a Festool router you would want to use the router guide and rail from Festool too.

I have that EZ router guide and rail, but I use it with my Bosch plunge router. One nice thing about the EZ rail is that it is a heavy duty extrusion, compared to the Festool Rail. Not a big deal... I haul the rail around in a gun case so it is well protected when not in use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OtfuVm_ShM

All the best,

Bass

Gus Dering 03-18-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by basswood (Post 636427)
Hi Berg,



I once took first place in a cycling race on an old steel frame bicycle. The bike also had a "luggage rack" on it and even a bike lock hanging on it.
It had a banana seat and butterfly handle bars. And I had baseball cards slapping the spokes held on by clothes pins.
I was wearing a dress and high heels.

I managed to beat a few hundred hot shot first graders who had expensive carbon fiber or aluminum bikes and spandex outfits...
I was in better shape, so I won.
Well, it also helped that it got windy during the race and a bunch of them
started crying when my dress blew up over my head.
Anyway, it was amusing.:party:

Let us know if you have any pictures of that :laughing::laughing::eek:

loneframer 03-18-2009 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gus Dering (Post 638509)
Let us know if you have any pictures of that :laughing::laughing::eek:

Hmmm............http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2027/...a6fe95d00c.jpg

basswood 03-18-2009 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gus Dering (Post 638509)
Let us know if you have any pictures of that :laughing::laughing::eek:

I don't have any pictures from your twisted imagination, thankfully! This emoticon might do it for you though: :scooter:

Cheers,

Bass:drink:

Gus Dering 03-18-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by basswood (Post 638692)
I don't have any pictures from your twisted imagination, thankfully! This emoticon might do it for you though: :scooter:

Cheers,

Bass:drink:

Good thing Loneframer was there to snap a shot. He takes alot of pictures ya know. Never know where he might pop up:laughing::laughing::laughing:

basswood 03-18-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by loneframer (Post 638671)
Hmmm............

Hmmm, what?!:cool2:

Gus Dering 03-18-2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by basswood (Post 638699)
Hmmm, what?!:cool2:

Hmmm, he is strangely attracted to you.
You do look pretty hot in that dress

basswood 03-18-2009 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gus Dering (Post 638698)
Good thing Loneframer was there to snap a shot. He takes alot of pictures ya know. Never know where he might pop up:laughing::laughing::laughing:

Yeah, but I heard he destroyed all the good pics.

Not to change the topic, but I resized some old cabinets today... when you cut your drawers down what do you get...???


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