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Old 02-18-2012, 04:20 PM   #1
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What are you guys usung instead of lag bolts? I have been using lags with1" caps to cover the hole I cut. Looking for something smaller hole wise. Any suggestions??
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Old 02-19-2012, 01:17 PM   #2
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Re: Fastening Rail To Newels


Are you asking about railbolts? When running a line of rails between newels, opposed to cutting a slot on one end I sometimes countersink a 4" drywall screw above and below the railbolt for the next rail, all being covered when installed.

Are you just face bolting rails thru the newl?

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I use for joining a rail to post a "tap-con" screw for concrete. It will fit into a 1/2" hole, doesn't strip out, and holds tight, won't break on you, then put a mushroom plug in to fill the hole.

And while on the subject of rails, what height have all been setting your rake rail to?
34" or 36" off the front edge of the nosing? What does code require? For a standard code, things appear to be differant.
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Used to be 34 on the rake and 36 on the level residential and 36 and 42 commercial. This has changed alot of places. Best to call and ask.
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36" min on level runs, 34-38 on stairs from the front edge of the nosing. That's residential.
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It's been a few years since I worked for a stair company, but even then some places in the St Louis area were changing their codes on rail heights. Would be in red sharpie on the cover of the job sheet pack lol. I have no clue if this is nation wide.
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california chanded to 41" 2 years ago
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rake is still 34"-38"
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Are you asking about railbolts? When running a line of rails between newels, opposed to cutting a slot on one end I sometimes countersink a 4" drywall screw above and below the railbolt for the next rail, all being covered when installed.

Are you just face bolting rails thru the newl?
I had considered using 4" exterior grade screws. It would be for anywhere a lag or rail bolts would be used especially where rail meets newel on the rake.

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I use for joining a rail to post a "tap-con" screw for concrete. It will fit into a 1/2" hole, doesn't strip out, and holds tight, won't break on you, then put a mushroom plug in to fill the hole.

And while on the subject of rails, what height have all been setting your rake rail to?
34" or 36" off the front edge of the nosing? What does code require? For a standard code, things appear to be differant.
Tapcons are a great idea. I assume you are using 1/4" by around 4"?

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36" min on level runs, 34-38 on stairs from the front edge of the nosing. That's residential.
The rake is definitely 34-38". I thought for straight runs, it depended on how high up it was. For example, if it was saybetween kitchen and family room on different levels where there is only a few feet between them, it needewd to be somewhere like 36-40", but if it wason the second floor or higher, it had to be between 40-44" or something like that.
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Isomewhere like 36-40", it had to be between 40-44" or something like that.
This isn’t a hobby get a copy of the code book and figure it out in your county.
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So because I am not positive what code dictates for something that does not pertain to what I am doing makes me a hobbiest????

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