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Old 07-08-2018, 12:01 PM   #21
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Re: DISCUSSION: Hanging Pre Hung Interior Doors Best Practices


hollow core 15 gauge . I have used screws before ,but i plugged them myself . I generally spackle all my nail holes . it is a habit ,expecially if i get nail happy . I did use trim screws on a storage building ext dr two weeks ago .could of left it as was but before i left i spackled the ugly holes .
stain grade i am more careful . will sneak a few 15g up at the joint between head a leg jamb . hide as many as i can and of course screw behind the hinge . Heck ,I have general rules ,my situation changes constantly .main rule "make it look good"
so as for what OP was asking .Ditch the screws .
go back after painters are done and see what works and doesn't .
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another reason to get a 15 gauge...
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15 gauge nails. Remove hinge and put screws in behind the hinges. If you put the screws through the hinges before finishing the painters will take them out and jack them up.

IMO its not acceptable to have trim screw size hole on door installs. That is a big chunk of putty that will pop out slightly with any movement or changes in humidity.

What's a painter doing messing with the hinge?
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What's a painter doing messing with the hinge?

Taking them off to paint the doors. Putting the screw behind the hinge prevents them from messing up how the door was set.
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Often painters pull all drs to paint.
I haven't seen an issue with spacle/filler popping except under very wet conditions ,like a roof leak . Not saying it does not happen .What i do see is these little round circles that need a second filling ,sand and more primer . Oh and also just sloppy over filling and poor sanding .
So not a fan of screws i guess based on what could happen .
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Try shim screws, they are slick and quick. They go behind the stop. Glue your casings to the jamb and sheetrock and that door is going nowhere fast.


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So do you remove the stop put the screws in and then re nail the stop?

Yes.
I also run screws into each hinge to give it any final tweeking it may need.
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For hollow core I just use nails. For 8' and solid cores it's tack in place with nails, a screw behind the hinge as mentioned. Get yourself a pump wedge, wedge the door after tacking in place, unscrew one hinge at a time, countersink and install screw. Nothing to patch and has to be faster than spackling. Our stops come fully nailed on place so it's a bit of a pain to remove and screw behind it, but I've done that on occasion when needed as well.

A question to those that are putting screws through the jambs, how are you doing stain grade doors? I'm assuming you don't?
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Iíve nailed stained jambs with 2 1/2Ē finish nails, then putty with the right color. That was a while ago, probably hidden fasteners would be best


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15g, then screw behind the hinge on heavy doors.
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For hollow core I just use nails. For 8' and solid cores it's tack in place with nails, a screw behind the hinge as mentioned. Get yourself a pump wedge, wedge the door after tacking in place, unscrew one hinge at a time, countersink and install screw. Nothing to patch and has to be faster than spackling. Our stops come fully nailed on place so it's a bit of a pain to remove and screw behind it, but I've done that on occasion when needed as well.

A question to those that are putting screws through the jambs, how are you doing stain grade doors? I'm assuming you don't?

Behind the stops also.
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Everything gets ordered with stops precut but shipped loose.
15 ga nails for solid core doors.
16 ga for hollow core.
Never 18 ga for jambs

Screws behind top hinge.
I've been known to spray foam jambs to framing in certain circumstances
Spray foam seems to hold forever.
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I make my jambs and hang the doors. I always run screws in under the stop. No holes to fill other than a few in the stop and casing.

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Everything gets ordered with stops precut but shipped loose.

15 ga nails for solid core doors.

16 ga for hollow core.

Never 18 ga for jambs



Screws behind top hinge.

I've been known to spray foam jambs to framing in certain circumstances

Spray foam seems to hold forever.


I installed an interior door in my new office. Itís an antique exterior door that I rehung in a new interior jamb. The opening was 2 1/2Ē too big, so I made an 1 1/4 block and screwed it in the opening at the top hinge. I then set the door tight to the one block and put a screw right below it.
I finished setting the door with 7 more 4Ē screws all behind the stop, and zero more shims. I foamed the 1 1/4Ē space all the way around and called it good. Iíll let you know when it fails

Oh and I still havenít trimmed it because I keep butchering the wall color!!! But itís been about 3 weeks and is still holding.

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Everything gets ordered with stops precut but shipped loose.
15 ga nails for solid core doors.
16 ga for hollow core.
Never 18 ga for jambs

Screws behind top hinge.
I've been known to spray foam jambs to framing in certain circumstances
Spray foam seems to hold forever.


I also use spray foam on some interiors.
usually bathroom and master bedroom. Makes them a little less noisy.
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I was thinking that the spray foam helped to quiet up the doors .I used it on heavy interior door recently hoping to make it sound more solid when it hit the jamb . Any reality to this idea ,that foam in the jamb space quiets doors or gives them a more solid closing sound ?
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I guess I'm really old school but I generally hand nail a jamb to the framing with 10d finish nails. If the stop is removable, I nail under the stop. If not as close to the stop as possible, on the door side so the spackled holes are covered when the door is closed.
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what is the point to using screws on the jambs if not going through the hinge? For the first 1-3 years there may not be an issue, but eventually it's the top hinge that pulls due to the hinge screw not having enough meat to hold it.

On jobs where it warrants, 16g nails and spray foam the hinge side of the jambs with one 3" screw through the innermost hinge. The painters will have to put it back up correctly but they usually don't. They also oftentimes over tighten the screws, thereby stripping out the wood or crappy hollow core doors.
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I was thinking that the spray foam helped to quiet up the doors .I used it on heavy interior door recently hoping to make it sound more solid when it hit the jamb . Any reality to this idea ,that foam in the jamb space quiets doors or gives them a more solid closing sound ?
I'm not above using the peel & stick clear bumpers designed for cabinet doors - 1 top - 1 bottom - to take away the clatter
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I was thinking that the spray foam helped to quiet up the doors .I used it on heavy interior door recently hoping to make it sound more solid when it hit the jamb . Any reality to this idea ,that foam in the jamb space quiets doors or gives them a more solid closing sound ?
I think it makes the doors feel more solid when closing.

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