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Old 06-22-2015, 03:46 PM   #1
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Cutting Off PH - Door Stop


The pic is from google just shows what I'm starting with.

Customer has 2 closets with 2-2/0 swing out doors - each closet. 2 1/4 clamshell casing - painted.

They want mirrored bi-pass doors which I've installed before. They got a quote from the box store labor only near $1000 - they're R&R molding, tear this and that out - no painting of course.

I can do 2 ways - cut off the stop - overlay the 4 9/16 jamb with clear pine - leave the casing and all - install the mirrored bi-pass.

Or, dado out 3/4 or 5/4 and overlay to make a clean jamb. The 1" or so diff in the doors / bi-pass (as you see them) is not a problem with the customer.

Question - if I have to cut off the PH stop - how best to do that ? I have a Feim MM ---- any other ways ? The MBR is occupied.
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Re: Cutting Off PH - Door Stop


Unless I am missing something isn't the stop just nailed on?

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Re: Cutting Off PH - Door Stop


Pre hung split jamb. The stop is integrated into the material.
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Ok, we don't have those here, never seen one.
But I guess I would use a multimaster.
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Rip it out and install new solid jambs. When installing new trim slightly widen the reveal to cover the old paint line on the wall. Its easier if you first coat the trim on horses and second coat in place. There should be no need to repaint walls and the doors will fit properly.

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Easiest cheapest way, which is what they seem to want. Would be to rip a dado into your new jambs.

Screwing around with a multimaster would be my last choice.
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Have only seen it nailed on or on here as well. Rip it out and rebuild. It will be faster cleaner and save headaches. As mentioned above trying to cut it off would be my last choice. You will be sanding and preping and they will be looking it over like a used car salesman.
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I think both are close in time, mm would fly through that, a few minutes. Overlay new jambs.
Grab router, edge guide and have at it, got a big enoug dado bit or do you need 2 passes? If so, mm is faster.

If they want to pay to have it look original tear out the split jambs and install new, for more $$$
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If you overlay, you get a wide reveal, so that's out. If you MM the stop on a split jamb it can fall part before you're finished anyway. .

JAH has it right.
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How would cutting out the stop be any quicker than tearing out and installing solid jambs? By the time you tear the old jamb to pieces with a mm, router, Sawzall, whatever, then try to rig it to make it look like a solid jamb, you could have installed and painted new ones.
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Oh yeah, and you just cut out half of the structural part of the split jamb...Now what?
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Oh yeah, and you just cut out half of the structural part of the split jamb...Now what?
A stop is structural on a doorjamb? Especially one that will be getting sliding doors?
And an overlay is needed any way so the sliders overlap, you are making it a much bigger job than it really is. Cut it off stop, install overlay, paint overlay, done.

No replacing and painting trim, possibly needing to paint walls etc
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The stop is structural on a split jamb. There won't be any shims either more than likely. Cut the stop and it's all gonna fall apart.

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