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Old 05-01-2015, 06:55 AM   #381
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Check out the fantastic technique and coping hack saw...

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I feel so stoopid, I have been doing it wrong for so long?

Whats worse is that people will try to do it that way
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:36 AM   #382
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Cutting like that unsupported is dumb. You are referencing off the back flat that hits the ceiling instead of the one that hits the wall. There are many crowns where the wall and top flats aren't square.

If you make a set of wood fences that mirror the stock ones it works and you can cut moulding that is way past the listed vertical capacity of the saw. It's upside down and backwards-reversed. The crown he's cutting is around 7". With the clearances on his POS saw it wouldn't fit nested in the normal fashion but flip it around and it works.

I've never thought to try to cope with a hacksaw.
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But expert show coping at crown made of foam. Still always didn't see no one video of coping of hard wood. However it would make sense hire that guy help selling my DVD (99,99$). Evidently he is capable sell advices about things that he do not know nothing about.
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But expert show coping at crown made of foam. Still always didn't see no one video of coping of hard wood. However it would make sense hire that guy help selling my DVD (99,99$). Evidently he is capable sell advices about things that he do not know nothing about.
I almost understood that...but it's too early in the day to start drinking...
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I almost understood that...but it's too early in the day to start drinking...
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But expert show coping at crown made of foam. Still always didn't see no one video of coping of hard wood. However it would make sense hire that guy help selling my DVD (99,99$). Evidently he is capable sell advices about things that he do not know nothing about.
The crown at 0:56 to the end is maple. Hardwood. If a saw blade can cut it it can be coped by any method. A self proclaimed "true expert" such as yourself should be able to recognize this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxXK8RYhERs
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The crown at 0:56 to the end is maple. Hardwood. If a saw blade can cut it it can be coped by any method. A self proclaimed "true expert" such as yourself should be able to recognize this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxXK8RYhERs
I've never used one of those before. I learned how to cope with a hand coping saw and then learned the back to back sanding discs on an angle grinder later on. I still do most of my coping by hand, but I think I'm going to order that coping foot and give it a shot.
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I've never used one of those before. I learned how to cope with a hand coping saw and then learned the back to back sanding discs on an angle grinder later on. I still do most of my coping by hand, but I think I'm going to order that coping foot and give it a shot.

I'm using the coping foot in conjunction with the Festool RAS. I especially like the coping foot for tall base that has a tall flat section that is s straight cut. You can't beat the speed of the coping foot on trim like that. In stuff with more contours I like the RAS/grinder method.
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I've never used one of those before. I learned how to cope with a hand coping saw and then learned the back to back sanding discs on an angle grinder later on. I still do most of my coping by hand, but I think I'm going to order that coping foot and give it a shot.
I don't believe you'll be disappointed with it.

I first saw this demonstrated at the 2000 (I believe) JLC Live in Las Vegas. I've been using one ever since. It helps to follow the manufacturer's recommendation and use the Bosch T244D Jigsaw Blade for the best results
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I've never used one of those before. I learned how to cope with a hand coping saw and then learned the back to back sanding discs on an angle grinder later on. I still do most of my coping by hand, but I think I'm going to order that coping foot and give it a shot.
For the $30ish that it costs it's worth having around for cutting oddball scribes if coping with it isn't your cup of tea. There's a learning curve but once you get a feel for it it's pretty fast. I use a similar cutting order to what I would do with a hand saw. Some guys split the line when cutting. I like to leave the line and file it righteous.

I cope small mouldings like shoe and picture rail by hand and I like having a grinder around for those 45/45 crowns where the profile gets paper thin to tune the cut.

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For the $30ish that it costs it's worth having around for cutting oddball scribes if coping with it isn't your cup of tea. There's a learning curve but once you get a feel for it it's pretty fast. I use a similar cutting order to what I would do with a hand saw. Some guys split the line when cutting. I like to leave the line and file it righteous.

I cope small mouldings like shoe and picture rail by hand and I like having a grinder around for those 45/45 crowns where the profile gets paper thin to tune the cut.
It was $20ish when I got mine...

I'd like to get a barrel grip saw though...
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It was $20ish when I got mine...

I'd like to get a barrel grip saw though...
Not the first time I've overpaid for something.
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It's $60 for the Carvex...
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Not the first time I've overpaid for something.
I meant I got mine so long ago...
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I meant I got mine so long ago...
Inflation sucks.

My old truck got broken into about 7 years ago and they took my original one and its barrel grip jigsaw. I had to replace it quick so I bought at the over priced local store. I am positive I was over charged.
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$31.05 on Amazon (just ordered it) Ha, this forum has cost me much more than that on tools previously.
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The crown at 0:56 to the end is maple. Hardwood. If a saw blade can cut it it can be coped by any method. A self proclaimed "true expert" such as yourself should be able to recognize this.
Well in my add at CL I do not advertise myself like expert. There are many experts there. I just say "I do not use putty or silicone to hide quality of joints in trim that I made" and it is about it. I post "I do not carry silicone or putty with me at all. Carpenters should not do painters jobs unless they want hide something". Customers dig it big time. Countless time I come after some putty expert start job.
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Well in my add at CL I do not advertise myself like expert. There are many experts there. I just say "I do not use putty or silicone to hide quality of joints in trim that I made" and it is about it. I post "I do not carry silicone or putty with me at all. Carpenters should not do painters jobs unless they want hide something". Customers dig it big time. Countless time I come after some putty expert start job.
First off, I don't know anyone who uses silicone to caulk trim work. We use Towertech urethane caulking. Not only do I carry caulking and filler with me, I carry a sprayer as well because we paint our work.

Maybe if you learned how to adjust your attitude, you wouldn't have to advertise on CL. I know I sure don't. Just think about your customer pool - they are people who hired some hack off of CL and then they find your ad when they are looking for someone to fix the work. Your entire view of your competition would be much different if you were swimming in the same pool as those of us who don't compete with the CL crowd.
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In all fairness, I think his perceived arrogant attitude might just be because of the language barrier... I'll give Tipsee the benefit of the doubt...
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In all fairness, this thread would be rather boring with him.

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