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Old 07-03-2012, 10:37 AM   #1
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Crown Molding Attachment On Cabinet


I'm about to attach some crown and light rail on some cabinets that don't have flush ends. The face frame sticks out about a 16th, maybe a bit more. I would like to make it flush just at point of attachment. I don't want to leave it alone as it would be too noticable. I considered using a mortising bit on a trim router and making some sort of jig to keep it level. Anyone have any thoughts?
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:39 PM   #2
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I wouldn't cut into the face frame. I'd either add matching scribe molding horizontal on those edges that would give you a flush surface and barely seen behind your added moldings. Or matching skin on the whole side that would give it a more solid/filled in appearance overall.

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scribe the crown.
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I chisel just out the side
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I chisel the rail
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I rip fillers and leave the face frame
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I usualy either rip down a piece of stock and make a filler. or notch the rail to make it flush. skinning the side would be the best way to do it and give you a most finished look.
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Thanks for the suggestions! I'm gonna think about it a bit more. Don't have to complete it until after the 4th. Waiting for the backsplash to get installed before I install the light rail. I will take a photo of what I ended up doing.
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all of the above what ever works for you, next time order the cabs with furniture ends.
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Common feature on most stock cabs, best option is to skin the whole side. If not in the budget I use a adjustable square and cut it with a new sharp utility knife, then remove the material with a nice sharp chisel... your done.
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I usually add a scribe piece on the side of the cabinet only where the crown is, to make it run straight. Otherwise notch out and attach the crown, gives a goofy look on the corner though IMO
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Forget the scribe and flush side. Add a 1x to the tops of the cabinets that is stained to match the crown. Hold the 1x out so your crown can be nailed to it. It will create a nice extra reveal line and solve the issue. It should look like this.

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I've done it all the ways mentioned . The best IMO is adding a skin but using scribe or a ripped filler looks good as well . I prefer not to notch the cabinet rail but if i don't have the material i will do it and it looks fine .
In this situation i think you will be the only one that notices how you do it . All the ways mentioned look decent . I know some installers who insist on notching the cabinet . I prefer not to . A good supplier sends the skins to address this issue or make sure the cabinets at the end of the runs have the sides flush with the rail but many don't figure on this problem.

It's not a big deal . i'm sure however you do it will be fine
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I've done it all the ways mentioned . The best IMO is adding a skin but using scribe or a ripped filler looks good as well . I prefer not to notch the cabinet rail but if i don't have the material i will do it and it looks fine .
In this situation i think you will be the only one that notices how you do it . All the ways mentioned look decent . I know some installers who insist on notching the cabinet . I prefer not to . A good supplier sends the skins to address this issue or make sure the cabinets at the end of the runs have the sides flush with the rail but many don't figure on this problem.

It's not a big deal . i'm sure however you do it will be fine
Thanks for all the suggestions. I ended up notching the ff with a multitool and it looks good. The skins just wouldnt have worked for various reasons.

Adding the plywood top wouldnt work because of the reveal. The cabinets were designed with an 1/8 reveal all around.

Again, thanks for the suggestions.
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For future reference, while notching works, the way to do it is to bring the side flush through either a strip or a skin... although a skin is ideal as it brings it as close to furniture grade as you can get with stock. One of the pitfalls of stock cabs..

By notching, you are making the bottom of the crown sit on the notched part of the FF instead of on the face of the cab like the rest of it...

Your customer probably won't care either way...
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Where can i find some 1/16" skins?
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i have notched the face frame, and i have used scribe to make up the difference also. i think the scribe looks better, but neither look correct.

its usually a little under 1/4" on most stock boxes.
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If it's your own cabinets then go the extra but if it's for a cheap azz builder / HO that doesn't have some scrib or skins or something on site for you to use then just notch the rail and be done with it, move on.
Don't let little things like this waste your time.
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Thanks for the suggestions! I'm gonna think about it a bit more. Don't have to complete it until after the 4th. Waiting for the backsplash to get installed before I install the light rail. I will take a photo of what I ended up doing.
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