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Old 03-10-2010, 08:53 PM   #1
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I have to build a cabinet for a built-in oven and have never made one. My main question is this-

The manual for the oven states, "Make sure the wall coverings, counters and cabinets around the oven can withstand the heat (up to 200* F) generated by the oven".
How do I know if my cabinets will withstand the heat? I have exactly 30" between two existing cabinet faceframes (30 1/2" between the two cabinet sides). Idealy I would like to build a cabinet w/ sides and a faceframe to house the oven (it's a 29 1/4" wide face on the oven, I think I could make it work). I also have to get a cook top in the counter as well so all this will be taken into consideration while designing the oven cabinet.
Just to reiterate, how do I know what the heat rating of cabinet grade birch ply is and also any heads ups or warnings from prior experiance would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks for any advice!
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Old 03-10-2010, 09:01 PM   #2
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They are made all the time. 200 degrees is not that hot for the plywood. That is a safety precaution, the side of the oven does not get that hot.

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They are made all the time. 200 degrees is not that hot for the plywood. That is a safety precaution, the side of the oven does not get that hot.
exactly. never made one but put them in all the time. usually made of MDF and there fine.
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Agreed, I have seen these ovens in chip board or melamine sided cabinets as well as birch or oak ply cabinets without any problems.
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Get your hands on the MSDS sheet for the plywood from your supplier (he's obligated by law to provide one to you) It should help set your mind at ease.
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The heat is of no concern in regards to your plywood.

What you need to be concerned about is opening sizes and clearances. You need to pay close attention to the manufacture's cut sheet for both the oven and the cook top.

I'll bet a nut that you need 28 1/2" wide opening for the oven and it sounds as though you'll have that after your 1 1/2" stiles on both sides.

The height of your toe kick can come into play when you take into consideration the depth of the cook top and counter top thickness. Be aware that some ovens have a minimum height off finished floor so the handle doesn't hit the deck when open.

Often there is no more than 1/8" clearance between the two. So be diligent in your planning as the worst case is that they don't pass by each other.

A lot of ovens require a full 24" depth too, so your standard 24" box cannot have a back on it.

Then there is the location of the gas inlet and the shut off valve. Around here they want the gas valve to be accessible in an adjacent cabinet. I like to have the valve flush with the wall and centered on a drawer. Then we cut a hole in the back and no drawer needs shortened.

The gas inlet needs to be in the correct spot too or all hell breaks loose when they go to install the appliances.

Other than that it's a piece of cake. Nothing to this stuff.
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Thanks! I'll design and build and not look back. I figured that's the way it was. Doesn't look any different than a slide-in oven and none of those cabinets ever caught fire, just needed some contractortalk to back it up!
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The heat is of no concern in regards to your plywood.

What you need to be concerned about is opening sizes and clearances. You need to pay close attention to the manufacture's cut sheet for both the oven and the cook top.

I'll bet a nut that you need 28 1/2" wide opening for the oven and it sounds as though you'll have that after your 1 1/2" stiles on both sides.

The height of your toe kick can come into play when you take into consideration the depth of the cook top and counter top thickness. Be aware that some ovens have a minimum height off finished floor so the handle doesn't hit the deck when open.

Often there is no more than 1/8" clearance between the two. So be diligent in your planning as the worst case is that they don't pass by each other.

A lot of ovens require a full 24" depth too, so your standard 24" box cannot have a back on it.

Then there is the location of the gas inlet and the shut off valve. Around here they want the gas valve to be accessible in an adjacent cabinet. I like to have the valve flush with the wall and centered on a drawer. Then we cut a hole in the back and no drawer needs shortened.

The gas inlet needs to be in the correct spot too or all hell breaks loose when they go to install the appliances.

Other than that it's a piece of cake. Nothing to this stuff.
This is where I am now! Thanks for the info Gus. I do have to build it w/out a back and I have to move the already once moved gas line (now under a finished brazilian walnut floor )! The wall oven was purchased after all the cabinets were done so now the ho will pay out the rear for one custom oven cabinet, classic case of bad planning!

You're also right about the 1 1/2" faceframes. That's exactly what I'm planning to do. I think you might be a mind reader !
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Don't mean to bust anybody's nuts but a 30" cabinet and a 28 1/2" opening only allows for 3/4" stiles. If you are concerned about the tolerances check the installation instructions for the oven. If this is built like a store bought cabinet with the face frame a 1/4" over the cabinet box that will only allow for 1/2" box material.
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Don't mean to bust anybody's nuts but a 30" cabinet and a 28 1/2" opening only allows for 3/4" stiles. If you are concerned about the tolerances check the installation instructions for the oven. If this is built like a store bought cabinet with the face frame a 1/4" over the cabinet box that will only allow for 1/2" box material.
I just reread his op and you have a point. I saw that 30 1/2" between cabinet sides sentence and neglected the 30" between frames part.

It's a cluster of fun at this point. I think he'll finger it out.
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It was only a 3/4" stile on the ff (13/16 actually). That's all I could fit. Will be plenty sturdy after I fasten it to the two cabinets it's between. Finished it up and it turned out very well. Thanks for all the input!!

I'll put pics of the entire kitchen once it's done. I have to install doors and drawer fronts tomorrow.

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