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Old 06-06-2012, 10:24 PM   #1
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Building A Small Cherry Island


Got a call to build a small island for an existing kitchen. Nice little project.

The original cabinets were put in in 1984. They are Wood Mode cabinets and one reason they bought the house was because of the kitchen, they liked the cabinets.

They found me through my website, they wanted someone local. She showed me a few pics and I made up a small sample of a door and brought it over to them. It was a nice match, I was surprised that the cove panel was a true raised panel, I made mine flush, never expected a true raised panel. The island will have raised cove panels. Island will be 29 3/4"D x 42"w

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Just some pieces/parts shots right now.

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5 1/4" tall dovetail drawer


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Island Panel Blanks


Stiles and rails for doors and panels


Close up of Stiles and Rails


Ran all the panels, sanded them, stained the tongues, sealed the ends of the panels and assembled the 2 doors and 2 island panels. Made a custom stain, sanded 32 feet of 2 5/8" crown and stained it.

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Old 06-06-2012, 10:25 PM   #2
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Island Side Panel


2 Doors


Edge profile for door (sample) Had to make this with router bits
1st pass was a small ogee ran on the 3/4 edge and then a 1/8"
brass bearing round over ran on the face to round over the edge.


The guy who ordered the mantle picked it up today. Cool, beer money.

Getting towards the end. Still need to make the garbage/recycle pullout along with the tray pullout.

Tomorrow the final sanding will happen. Staining and clearing after that.

Drawer fronts


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Island panels glued up




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Into the spray room today. Had to condition the Cherry with clear stain base. I did tests and the Cherry was blotching to much for my likes. So conditioned the Cherry and waited about an hour and then stained it.

Also made the trash/recycle pullout and started the tray pullout. The cabinets and door/drawer fronts were sealed after waiting a while for the stain to dry.











At the beginning of the project they said not to order the bar foot rail because they were undecided about it. Yesterday I sent her an email telling them that I would be ready to deliver the island on Thursday, and I was wondering what was going on with the foot rail.

Oh, they forgot about that and want to have it. So I ordered it. Things are coming from Canada and won't be getting here for at least 4 days. They don't mind, but I'm a bit upset. I want the money for the job durn it

So, seeing as my deadline has increased by a week I didn't really rush the progress at hand.

So, today I got the sealer sanded on everything and the first coat of finish on. I finished making the tray pullout and dividers and got that sprayed to completion. I got the final coat on the trash pullout.

Then I went to Hooters for lunch.

I went there because it is close to one of my suppliers. After lunch I headed there. Picked up some 50 qt trash containers, some door bumps and was surprised to find that the 6' section of bar foot rail was there waiting for me to pick up. The website said it was 4 days away. But...the mounts and end caps are still 4 days away. I'd rather have those, the bar rail can be installed anytime.

So tomorrow will be easy. One short round of spraying. The fronts of the doors and drawer fronts and the inside and outside of the island itself. I still need to make and stain one small pc, the connector for the trash pullout that joins the door and drawer front.

Sorry, no pics today. I'll try to get the trash/recycle and tray pullouts. They are LRG specialties.
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Nice...

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I wish. One pc of sandpaper and a whittling knife
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Your a bad MF, Leo. Nice cabinets.
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I made a cabinet with the same door edge profile. I couldn't figure out how to do the flat spot so I ended up using a door edge but then running it thru the the table saw with the blade just barley touching the doors to make the line, then lots of hand sanding.
My panel bit was a little different also but that's wasn't too noticeable as the cabinets were not in line with the existing ones.
Your way sounds easier. I am glad you guy make these posts so guys like myself can learn from the best.
Ps, pics was the first door and got scraped. The real doors came out closer, but I can't find any pics. I really need to start taking finished pic
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Looks great as usual Leo. Amazing how Hooters can brighten your day. Was it the Manchester one?
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Here is a picture of the router setup I used a small ogee bit and put an oversized bearing on it to limit the depth of the cut. Then I lined the bearing up with the fence. This was the first pass of two. The doors and drawer fronts were run vertically against the fence to get the profile in the correct orientation. When I was doing my initial trials I just free handed the router on the edge but had a problem with the bearing riding into the profile at the end of the board which of course ruined the cut. That is why I needed to do it on the router table.

This is the router table setup.


And for the second pass to remove the square edge I used a brass bearing 1/16" Radius round over bit.
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great work as always, leo.
what sealer did you use on the cherry? shellac?
how did you assemble the panels? biscuits? your fancy dowel jig?
there's no such thing as a short round of spraying for me. what methods/tools have you found help to shorten the setup, spray, clean cycle?
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Shellac, no.

I use ML Campbell products. In this case I used MagnaSand as the sealer and MagnaMax as the topcoat. Normally I like to use MagnKlear as my topcoat but that has UV inhibitors in it and I want the Cherry to darken like the original Cherry in her kitchen did.


Spraying is easy. I use the Kremlin 10:14 AAA pump to spray all my coatings and an HVLP gun to spray all my stains and conditioners. Not a cheap system to get but once you have it you wonder how you did without it....right Kent?


The styles and rails are traditional cope and stick and the panels are just edge glued with no extra fasteners. All of this was done with shapers, the only router work was the door and drawer front edges (and the dovetail drawers). Everything is glued with TiteBond II.

The AAA pump along with using precat lacquers makes for easy clean up. Usually I don't. I just leave the coating in the gun. If I won't be using it for about 3 days then you just pump thinner through it and let it cycle for a bit, brush the tip off and throw it in a cup of thinner. Cleanup takes just a few minutes. The HVLP guns just hang around with stain in them until I need to change the color out. This is me just being lazy, I should clean them out, it would make my life easier.....
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...right Kent?
Right. That Kremlin atomizes well. Just saving my pennies to get one. Still working on my new spray room. Gonna be a huge improvement.
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Right. That Kremlin atomizes well. Just saving my pennies to get one. Still working on my new spray room. Gonna be a huge improvement.
spray room?
wish i had a decent amount of land so i could stretch out more and do this stuff properly. i gotta make do spraying outside and picking gnats off my finish every few minutes.
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World of difference with a room. I had to do a small repair and I took the drawer front outside to use a lacquer rattle can. I couldn't believe all the crap I got in the finish. Unbelievable.

I ended up taking it back to the shop and doing it there. Perfect.
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spray room?
wish i had a decent amount of land so i could stretch out more and do this stuff properly. i gotta make do spraying outside and picking gnats off my finish every few minutes.
Oh yeah....Leo sets the bar pretty high. It won't have as much sf as his, but it will be cleaner

I'll have about 80% of the size of Leo's room. Keeps out all the crap. Bugs, floaties...a nice regulated area.
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Who the heck needs clean in a spray room
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one day i'll have a little spot in a shop that allows me to drop down some plastic and make an ad hoc spray booth. i think that's about as fancy as i can hope for.
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Isn't just about everything spraywise illegal in Kalifornia?
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Just about done with the cabinet. I didn't get the last coat on the pc of Cherry plywood that will join the door and drawer front so I couldn't put the last drawer front on.

Cookie tray pullout



Trash pullout


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Door and drawer fronts mounted minus 1

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