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Old 04-08-2014, 09:05 PM   #1
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Base Picture Frames And Chair Rail On Out Of Level Floors


Customer wants 3 1/4 base, og picture frames and chair rail detail on a room with floor out of level approximately 3/4 of an inch.

How do I go about handling this. Typically what I would do is try to sell them on a taller base and scribe out the high points to have a level base. Just wondering how that would look with the 3 1/4 base. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Taller base scribed is what I'd do

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If they won't go with scribed taller base how about the 3 1/4 base set level and a shoe?
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It depends on the situation.

I use my eye for stuff like that.

Sometimes level doesn't look right.
Some cheating here and there and it will look like it was made for that room.
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If they won't go with scribed taller base how about the 3 1/4 base set level and a shoe?
Its getting carpet. Iam wondering if they can shim their tack strips. Its a basement floor
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It depends on the situation.

I use my eye for stuff like that.

Sometimes level doesn't look right.
Some cheating here and there and it will look like it was made for that room.
That is the hard reality!

In my opinion, level is more for foundation, flatwork, & framing work.
By the time you get to interior trim, everything is relative to what's already there. The exceptions are typically kitchen cabs & hanging doors, but I've even cheated them in extreme cases.

I'd come down parallel off the ceiling, to start, & see where that puts you. You might need to cheat 3/8" above the chair, & 3/8 below. I just don't see how a 3/8" cheat would be a deal breaker.

It comes down to what you can see by eye. Making it level, but not not parallel to what's existing isn't the mark of a true craftsman, because the end result will only highlight the faults.
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To add to what B.Scott and Railman are saying, what other points of reference are in the room? If your eyes start lining up tables or other pieces of furniture with the chair rail, you want the appearance of level, which may not mean level.
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Yeah I guess what iam getting at is I WANT everything to be level but it may not be possible. Iam thinking happy median on the base and just pull up for picture frames and chair. Didnt know if there was an old trick or something I wasn't aware of.

I kinda like the shoe idea but at the same time, you notice the reveal on the flat of the base if you run the shoe tight to the floor.

Anybody ever heard of shimming tack strips for a situation like this?
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You're overthinking the situation. Explain the conditions to the customer. Get them to understand that putting the chair rail level will look bad. Have them agree that the rail should be installed parallel and just bang it out. It doesn't sound like this is a high end application, considering its 3 1/4" base w/carpet and in a basement. Keep It Simple,
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Customer wants 3 1/4 base, og picture frames and chair rail detail on a room with floor out of level approximately 3/4 of an inch.

How do I go about handling this. Typically what I would do is try to sell them on a taller base and scribe out the high points to have a level base. Just wondering how that would look with the 3 1/4 base. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
....I dont think they will see 3/4 of an inch over 8 feet or more. Run the chair level and run the base 3/8 out of level...carpet should hide the nothing to 3/8 gap. Then just make all your margins the same and let the panels grow in height. They won't see the subtle change if you split the 3/4 up.
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You will not see 3/4" over 8'. I've run a 1/2" taper over 5' and you cannot see the elevation change. I did this to accommodate the elevation difference between kitchen tile and a new laminate floor.

This negates the need to cut down all the rest of the baseboard.

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