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Old 01-14-2012, 10:40 PM   #1
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I'm running 4-1/4" base and am debating on what the best way to run it under these return vents (one of which is only 2-1/4" off the floor).

I've got three potential soutions, and wanted some feedback as to which one (if any) would work best:

1) stepping down the base trimming the bottom and then stepping it back up at the end of the return.

2) run it strait and make a cutout in the base for the vent.

3) run the base to the vent, use a self return, then use base shoe under the vent, then begin base with another self return.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 01-14-2012, 10:46 PM   #2
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Is it possible to raise the vent 2".

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Is it possible to raise the vent 2".
Ya, looks like a return air vent... piece of cake to move it.
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I would probably run the 4-1/4 trim and shorten the height of the return. I think this would look best. I would consult with my HVAC guy first to be sure, but I don't see that being a big issue. It appears to be a large return as it is.

Or still shorten the height of the return, but maybe make the return wider to make-up for the shortened height.

I would try my best to run the trim normally
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Looks like you could use a pack-out to run the base right past the grills. Just remove the lower screws so you can remove them, if need be.

The base won't encroach on the actual open space.
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id use vented base
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Looks to me that you could just run the base directly across the vents Based on the 1st photo - looks like the base and cap is below the grate of the vent (though not below the trim of the vent). I would apply the base cap to the vent cover so that you could remove all as one piece- back rabbet as needed to keep everything in the proper plane. I think you could work it out so that the base and cap stayed in the same plane around the corner with adjustments made to keep the vent cover removable. It is not a great situation but it is what it is. Changing heights and orientations with returns etc. would just attract even more attention. Of course if you can raise the vent that would be the best.
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Looks to me that you could just run the base directly across the vents Based on the 1st photo - looks like the base and cap is below the grate of the vent (though not below the trim of the vent). I would apply the base cap to the vent cover so that you could remove all as one piece- back rabbet as needed to keep everything in the proper plane. I think you could work it out so that the base and cap stayed in the same plane around the corner with adjustments made to keep the vent cover removable. It is not a great situation but it is what it is. Changing heights and orientations with returns etc. would just attract even more attention. Of course if you can raise the vent that would be the best.
The base trim in the photo will be removed, but rabbeting out the back may work!
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Looks like you could use a pack-out to run the base right past the grills. Just remove the lower screws so you can remove them, if need be.

The base won't encroach on the actual open space.
By pack-out I assume you mean to shim the base out from the wall far enough to pass over the grill?
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I would probably run the 4-1/4 trim and shorten the height of the return. I think this would look best. I would consult with my HVAC guy first to be sure, but I don't see that being a big issue. It appears to be a large return as it is.

Or still shorten the height of the return, but maybe make the return wider to make-up for the shortened height.

I would try my best to run the trim normally
Unfortunately, I've got to solve this without getting a new grill.
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Unfortunately, I've got to solve this without getting a new grill.
Why
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By pack-out I assume you mean to shim the base out from the wall far enough to pass over the grill?
Exactly. Rip something on the table saw or you might get away with 1/4" thick lattice molding.
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Unfortunately, I've got to solve this without getting a new grill.
If that's the case, trim the base as necessary to go around the vent cover and angle the cut as it's not at 90 degrees when it meets the grill but something more appealing, like 45 or 30 degrees.
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Anytime I have that application I step it down tight to the register and then step back up. That's how's I've always done it.
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Exactly. Rip something on the table saw or you might get away with 1/4" thick lattice molding.
I don't think it would look right have the grill go behind the molding. I think it would look weird.
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Anytime I have that application I step it down tight to the register and then step back up. That's how's I've always done it.
I think this is the only way to do it.
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I'd try option 2 first, rabbiting out the back of the base to fit the grill depth. Or keep it tight, and step it down/back up. It looks like you'll be having the same problem around the corner too...

Maybe accent the return rather than working around it? frame it out with a quarter round, or similar sized trim, then blend that into the base?
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I'd try option 2 first, rabbiting out the back of the base to fit the grill depth. Or keep it tight, and step it down/back up. It looks like you'll be having the same problem around the corner too...

Maybe accent the return rather than working around it? frame it out with a quarter round, or similar sized trim, then blend that into the base?
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Cleanest option is to frame the grills with your base material and run the base cap around the grill s, depending on what you plan on doing with that jacked up window sill
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I miter the base and then rip the base to go around the register. Like so. The register comes off and the base/trim runs under it a bit.


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