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Old 08-26-2016, 12:32 PM   #1
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Azek, Never Used It. Going To Be On A Trim Package.


I'm going to be using a lot of 1x8. Comes in 18' lengths. Most of my lengths will be in the 12' area. I'm making corner boards with a bead and rabbet. I'll likely be gluing them together as a unit then shipping them.

I have to make some beam covers and some post casings. The beam covers will consist of a 10 3/4" tall side and a 8" bottom that will be dadoed into the sides. The 2 bottom inside edges will have coves milled into them. The post casings will be the same beaded corner, just make square boxes (tubes) out of them. Glue 3 sides and then the 4th on site after they are slipped over the 6x6 PT engineered posts.

Mostly concerned with movement. I know it moves with temperature and more than wood. Plus what adhesive do you recommend. I've heard the Azek glue is OK, but not really strong. I was looking around and found something called Trimbonder and it might have been renamed as TrimGrip.

Any hint, pitfalls, suggestions would be helpful.
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Old 08-26-2016, 01:06 PM   #2
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Christy's Red hot adhesive.
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Is it getting painted? I don't think you're going to be able to route s bead into it and get it to match the factory finish. Molts of sanding and acetone will get you close.

Also, spray yourself and your tools down with this:

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Christy's Red hot adhesive.
Best stuff I've found. Not a ton of open working time with it .

I've seen the trim welder @ Tague lumber, always wanted to try it . Curious about the 2 part epoxy stuff.

Don't paint it dark colors.
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Bond & Fill, that's the 2 part stuff , not Trim welder.
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Where are you buying it from?
I'm not. It's getting delivered. I made the parts list and handed it to the GC. He says it'll be at my shop on Monday or Tuesday.

Just texted the GC. If he tells me, I'll tell you.
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Is it getting painted? I don't think you're going to be able to route s bead into it and get it to match the factory finish. Molts of sanding and acetone will get you close.

Also, spray yourself and your tools down with this:

Shipping is absolutely 100% free if you are an Amazon prime member, lol.


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No paint. It's already tan in color. The HO approved of the bead and the cove already. What's the acetone do? Melt it down smooth again? Sounds like more trouble than it's worth.

Wonder if I could use that as deodorant? Says Fresh Scent.

I'm not paying for free shipping....
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Is it colored all the way through? Never seen any that wasn't white core.
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I have never used the Christy's, but the Azek glue works pretty well. We get Azek by the
truckload on some jobs. With only 12' lengths, you shouldn't do too bad with movement.
Some blue tape works well to hold the final joint on site after glue up.
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The acetone helps to seal the cells after cutting.

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Is it colored all the way through? Never seen any that wasn't white core.
Yup, all the way through.


On a pc of white paper.
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Palight color2core would be my guess. I don't think Azek makes that.
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Ya, that was it. PVC trim/Azek That's what the GC said initially. But I remember looking at the pamphlet and Palight rings a bell.

Guess I should ask a MOD to change the title, huh?
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i have used plumbing pvc glue in the past. I would fill a squeeze bottle with it and it was easy to run a small bead of glue. You have to work quick but i have done fourteen foot porch post with pvc glue by myself.
don't let it run down the sides it leaves a mark

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Is the stuff like lumber 3/4 being called 1" and 1" being called 5/4? I use versatex and the is the way it is. 3/4 stuff is 20' and 5/4 is 18'. I just use a clear PVC plumbing glue.
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1x is 3/4" unless you are buying it in 4x8 sheets. Then they call it 3/4"
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Is the stuff like lumber 3/4 being called 1" and 1" being called 5/4? I use versatex and the is the way it is. 3/4 stuff is 20' and 5/4 is 18'. I just use a clear PVC plumbing glue.
You sure it's not the other way around? I've used 5 or 6 brands of PVC and it's always been 18' for 1x and 20' for 5/4.
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You sure it's not the other way around? I've used 5 or 6 brands of PVC and it's always been 18' for 1x and 20' for 5/4.

We get 18's for 1x and 5/4 in the Azek brand.
Corners come 10' and 20'
Trims are all 16'
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The stuff I'm getting comes in 18' lengths and is 3/4" thick (1x)

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