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Old 12-29-2013, 06:20 PM   #61
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Trolling you? If anything it is more likely that you are the troll. I am not the one that brings up some obscure thing (social icons) without being able to explain why they think it is a problem.

Nor are you able to say why other then you don't like it for your comments. All the earmarks of a troll. Or perhaps you just like pretending you have a clue of what you are talking about and when pressed just give a meaningless link to divert to that fact.

If I am wrong tell me what is wrong with the social icons and how changing them would give me an extra customer a year?
The icons show up very small for me. That makes them look weird, I would hit the back button. Also your conversion form should be up where it says recent blog posts, your conversion form is also too big, you need footer work, you need header work, you have no trust signals, no reviews, I would look into schema markup for address and reviews actually now a days-, you have no privacy policy, no terms policy, blah blah. If I had the time I could bang out a 25 page report for you.....

Please , ......
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in before "what is a trust signal"....
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The icons show up very small for me. That makes them look weird, I would hit the back button. Also your conversion form should be up where it says recent blog posts, your conversion form is also too big, you need footer work, you need header work, you have no trust signals, no reviews, I would look into schema markup for address and reviews actually now a days-, you have no privacy policy, no terms policy, blah blah. If I had the time I could bang out a 25 page report for you.....

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A few of those things you would be wrong as I have them on my website. The size and location problems as well as meaningless "footer work" are well your problem and a case for you not liking my site vs true reasons that actually mean anything. There is no way you will find a statistical meaningful difference if I changed any of those things. I do not think I would want to work with anyone who would hit the back button if they found social icons to small. That is for crazy people.

You must hit the back button when you visit your own tiny site on your phone. now that is tiny. I can guarentee that having a non resposnive website will cost you more then any of the "25 pages" you can come up with.

Schema changes are a possibility but I doubt it will make a meaningful difference in the near future as I am already at the top of the search engines for meaningful search results but I am always looking to improve and will eventually do so.

I was counting on google local for my reviews and a while back they erased them all and I got discouraged and quit. That is a good point and something I meant to change. Though on page reviews are worthless in my opinion.

I am sure you can put 25 pages of meaningless "seo talking points" that really would not make a difference in conversions as I am sure I could do the same with you.

I am at the top of search results and have good conversion. Everything else is window dressing.

Edit- I have decided I want crazy people and increased the size of the icons. Now lets get that extra job. lol

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Personally, - - I'd say great job on that website, - - and it's responsive,too?? NICE!!
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A few of those things you would be wrong as I have them on my website. The size and location problems as well as meaningless "footer work" are well your problem and a case for you not liking my site vs true reasons that actually mean anything. There is no way you will find a statistical meaningful difference if I changed any of those things. I do not think I would want to work with anyone who would hit the back button if they found social icons to small. That is for crazy people.

You must hit the back button when you visit your own tiny site on your phone. now that is tiny. I can guarentee that having a non resposnive website will cost you more then any of the "25 pages" you can come up with.

Schema changes are a possibility but I doubt it will make a meaningful difference in the near future as I am already at the top of the search engines for meaningful search results but I am always looking to improve and will eventually do so.

I was counting on google local for my reviews and a while back they erased them all and I got discouraged and quit. That is a good point and something I meant to change. Though on page reviews are worthless in my opinion.

I am sure you can put 25 pages of meaningless "seo talking points" that really would not make a difference in conversions as I am sure I could do the same with you.

I am at the top of search results and have good conversion. Everything else is window dressing.

The difference is I know without a doubt that If I had some associations and BBB ratings bullsh!t on my site I would increase my conversions.

You say without a doubt you wouldnt get hardly any benefit from it at all.


goto this website and test it. http://visualwebsiteoptimizer.com/features.php

Companys spend thousands if not millions of dollars tweeking their conversions. You say it doesnt mean chit?

Im done trying to convince you that you would get more work with a professional website. Suit yourself.

This is the weirdest argument Ive had in a long time.
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The difference is I know without a doubt that If I had some associations and BBB ratings bullsh!t on my site I would increase my conversions.

You say without a doubt you wouldnt get hardly any benefit from it at all.


goto this website and test it. http://visualwebsiteoptimizer.com/features.php

Companys spend thousands if not millions of dollars tweeking their conversions. You say it doesnt mean chit?

Im done trying to convince you that you would get more work with a professional website. Suit yourself.

This is the weirdest argument Ive had in a long time.
No, what I am saying is you saying random things is meaningless. Companies test these things they don't come to a guy who has no qualifications and takes there opinion on whether or not the social media icons are to small.

You have no idea if your own website has this or that correct size or location unless you actually tested it with something like the program you showed me which I doubt you did with any statistic significant sample size. Neither of us has enough traffic for that.

The only thing that is weird here is that you think you have a clue.

Especially someone who has a "pro" website full of fake photos, possibly fake reviews and no responsive website.

I understand paying for fake BBB or paying for other fake "trust" means something to you but not everyone. I know that part will make a difference but I am not interested in going there and neither do you have it on your site.

So why are you bringing that up? Your website doesn't have any "trust" either.

Obviously this has nothing to do with pro or diy so why bring it up again after I ignored it?

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No, what I am saying is you saying random things is meaningless. Companies test these things they don't come to a guy who has no qualifications and takes there opinion on whether or not the social media icons are to small.

You have no idea if your own website has this or that correct size or location unless you actually tested it with something like the program you showed me which I doubt you did.

The only thing that is weird here is that you think you have a clue.

Especially someone who has a "pro" website full of fake photos, possibly fake reviews and no responsive website.

I understand paying for fake BBB or paying for other fake "trust" means something to you but not everyone. I know that part will make a difference but I am not interested in going there.

I will also point out that this has nothing to do with pro or diy. In either case I can pay for fake trust.
I have I think 6 reviews? What are you on pal.

but ya, I am not interested in the BBB and whatever icons either, but I do think they would increase in conversions as it has been well established on pretty much every marketing website Ive visited.

I will get around to getting my site "responsive" at some point . I actually dont think that makes much difference though. It certainly doesnt hurt, but does it lead to more sales? I doubt it.

I will be the first to admit I dont have a clue....

and im also not arrogant enough to think Im on the level of a professional web designer.
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I have I think 6 reviews? What are you on pal.

but ya, I am not interested in the BBB and whatever icons either, but I do think they would increase in conversions as it has been well established on pretty much every marketing website Ive visited.

I will get around to getting my site "responsive" at some point . I actually dont think that makes much difference though. It certainly doesnt hurt, but does it lead to more sales? I doubt it.

I will be the first to admit I dont have a clue....

and im also not arrogant enough to think Im on the level of a professional web designer.
You act like a professional web designer is like being a doctor and you need years of schooling. Heck I got paid once for writing a simple website. I am a professional web designer.

The designation is meaningless as people have already pointed out on this thread. I know my website is better then many "professionals".

I also know that most "professionals" will tell you that having a responsive design is incredibly important and have been doing so for a while now.

I agree that BBB will help. I am thinking of linking to them (without using the logo) and saying no complaints. I won't pay them.

I am sure your reviews are on the up and up I was just saying that website reviews are worthless as they are easily faked. Your google review is all I would accept.

All that matters is results.
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My basis for having a pro make a site is simply to put your best foot forward. People who ask how to go about making a website, or is my site (blogger) any good, are usually not anywhere close to being able to make one that will show up in the rankings.

You seem to think I am being hard on your site, but I try my best to always be gentle with people and their websites. I dont try to belittle anyone and im certainly not belittling your site. Its about what my DIY site would look like, give or take some seo stuff and a fancy footer My first site was a Homestead site that I spend maybe 200 hours on and it sucked.

I know all the buzz is responsive and it is important, but. I dont have any trouble navigating my site on the half a dozen little hand held things in the house. I dont have a shortage of new visits per day so ill get to it when I get to it
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My basis for having a pro make a site is simply to put your best foot forward. People who ask how to go about making a website, or is my site (blogger) any good, are usually not anywhere close to being able to make one that will show up in the rankings.

You seem to think I am being hard on your site, but I try my best to always be gentle with people and their websites. I dont try to belittle anyone and im certainly not belittling your site. Its about what my DIY site would look like, give or take some seo stuff and a fancy footer My first site was a Homestead site that I spend maybe 200 hours on and it sucked.

I know all the buzz is responsive and it is important, but. I dont have any trouble navigating my site on the half a dozen little hand held things in the house. I dont have a shortage of new visits per day so ill get to it when I get to it
I would prefer you were blunt instead of nice even though you have no special knowledge. Every opinion is interesting.

When you mean footer are you talking about your footer with links to duplicated content with just the name changing? Nah I am not planning on doing that as I hear bad things. If google doesn't really punish it they should.

Carl who seems to be very knowledgeable seems to like doing it so who knows. Google may end up punishing it in the future though.

What I like about your site is the rotating blog posts at the bottom. Is that a widget? If so what are you using?


I do not know your clients but I get a lot of older women and they all use phones even the 80 year olds. They would have trouble with your non responsive layout.
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I asked footbridge to put it in and whalla, there it is. I have no idea although there is probably a wordpress widget for it.

I hear you on the responsive , ill get there.

Footers are a great place to put your location, recent posts, review widgets, ect. Look at some of the better sites, there are some remarkable footers.
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I think I have my town pages to 3 pages with "similar" content, look closer there is different content on them.
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Not sure exactly which one JB's is, - - but here's one . . .

http://wordpress.org/plugins/carouse...r/screenshots/


Footbridge Media really does do some damn nice sites (JB's being a prime example of one), - - I do notice they're newer ones seem to be responsive. Good to keep up with the times . . .
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Yeah click on the menu that says snow plowing, thats my newest site they made for me. It is responsive, but blah, I preach about everything but that. I dont think its a make or break function. Well maybe not anyways.
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Yeah click on the menu that says snow plowing, thats my newest site they made for me. It is responsive, but blah, I preach about everything but that. I dont think its a make or break function. Well maybe not anyways.
Looks great!! I don't know if it's a make or break either, - - but I do believe perception and attention span are all part of the formula . . .
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Not sure exactly which one JB's is, - - but here's one . . .

http://wordpress.org/plugins/carouse...r/screenshots/


Footbridge Media really does do some damn nice sites (JB's being a prime example of one), - - I do notice they're newer ones seem to be responsive. Good to keep up with the times . . .
Thank You. I will give that one a shot.
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Carl who seems to be very knowledgeable seems to like doing it so who knows. Google may end up punishing it in the future though.
In regards to listing a small amount of service area pages in your footer, this is not a problem and never really has been if you set the pages up right and keep it small.
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I also know that most "professionals" will tell you that having a responsive design is incredibly important and have been doing so for a while now.
It's part of any good theme framework now, so is usually a non-issue unless someone wants a stand-alone mobile site, which is beneficial for some trades like an emergency plumber for example and mostly pointless for others like home builders where a visitor wants to see high quality photos and mobiles generally aren't the best for that (especially if your visitor is on a bandwidth limitation).

I just looked at one of our busier contractor sites and over the last month the device breakdown was

67% of them were on a desktop
25% were on a mobile phone
8% were on a tablet device

There was conversions to leads (contact form) on all devices with desktop having a slight edge over mobile.

These percentages will be different for certain trades where mobile searching is much more common, plumbers as an example once again.
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Here's a worthy read on the matter . . .

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshstei...e-before-2014/
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I was counting on google local for my reviews and a while back they erased them all and I got discouraged and quit. That is a good point and something I meant to change. Though on page reviews are worthless in my opinion.
I lost one on google. I just promote kudzu and insider pages but houzz seems to be the easiest place that people will likely open an account or have already had one.

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