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Old 03-21-2014, 10:22 PM   #81
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I am not disputing that a multi-state builder (or any business) with 50-100k for a website would be better suited with a custom CMS. They should let their website requirements dictate the platform choice not some random anonymous poster on the WarriorForum (Toms reference). I've been a member there for 10 years.

You could yell "off page" around here till you're blue in the face and I don't think anyone (aside a tiny handful) will grasp it's importance in ranking.
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Old 03-21-2014, 10:25 PM   #82
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LOL... That's hilarious.
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OK, - - just out of midair, did a google search for akron ohio home remodeling, - -and only checked the actual remodelers/builders on the left side of the first page, of which there were 7.

6 were html, - - and again, 1 was wordpress.

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I don't see where it matters... I obviously have a wp site and slam at #1 in a lot of search terms and some I don't but still relevant.
I care about the inquiries I get and love when the majority of the people offer a nice compliment on how much they like my website.
I'm working on closing a finished basement with a fella who owns an IT business... the first meeting we had, he spent quite a bit of time praising my site and how all the other ones around sucked.
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OK, - - just out of midair, did a google search for akron ohio home remodeling, - -and only checked the actual remodelers/builders on the left side of the first page, of which there were 7.

6 were html, - - and again, 1 was wordpress.

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paulinslate
hugheskitchens


winklemanconstruction
That is a very poor example of an optimized Wordpress website and shows the level of competition for that search phrase.

Try "las vegas dentist". This is a very competitive local keyword (moreso than a home remodeling example) and you'll see the top two sites in local are WP sites. You think you're comparing apples to apples but you're not even close. There are more factors behind a sites rank that you are not aware of or are choosing to ignore.

This could play out across thousands of keyword combinations for days.
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OK so someone tell me why I see this. I use keywords "gas pool heater repair tampa" and there is a company that shows up just below me on the second page of G. His site was done thru some Yahoo template it seems. My wondering is why would this site ranks just under me with very little content?

Here is his site: www.the gas doctor dot com. The first three words are all together obviously.

My page that is just above his is:http://www.gastekservices.com/gas-po...pair-tampa-fl/

His site has very little content on the surface. Mine has a fair amount.

So why does his rank so close to me? It's also interesting that on page one of this search, I'm listed the top three spots but thru other sites, thumbtack, yelp, angieslist.
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First of all, he's got three years of domain age on you. That makes a big difference.

Second of all, the searches you see are not the same that everyone else sees, thanks to Google Plus Your World.

When I search the above term, in quotes, I get
1 Yelp
2 Yelp
3 You
4 You
5 You
6 You
7 Hot Frog

All the rest are a local index. Your competitor doesn't show up at all. You OWN that page! You are rocking the SERPs and you have done an amazing job.

Without quotes, all I get are the Yelps, YP's, Angies, etc. There's only one company in the first page of SERPs and, again, it's YOU.

You're also first in G Local. Don't sweat it.

It's important to keep in mind that G+YourWorld has made it so that search results are based on your online habits. If you want a better idea of the organic SERPs, use a Chrome incognito window or a FF "private browsing" window. That way you're not using your cache to inform G of your previous searches and online behaviors.
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That is a very poor example of an optimized Wordpress website and shows the level of competition for that search phrase.
Try "las vegas dentist". This is a very competitive local keyword (moreso than a home remodeling example) and you'll see the top two sites in local are WP sites. You think you're comparing apples to apples but you're not even close. There are more factors behind a sites rank that you are not aware of or are choosing to ignore.

This could play out across thousands of keyword combinations for days.

That may indeed be a poor example, - - but it's 'random'.

Sounds like from this statement, - -

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he spent quite a bit of time praising my site and how all the other ones around sucked
that may not be a good one to go by either, - - but admittedly, I don't have time for this to
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go on for days
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I brought it up as what I consider a valid debate, - - knowing in advance that the WordPress gang would attack

When I read the guys post on that forum I thought it was worth checking into. Admittedly, I didn't take into account any 'lack of seniority' he may or may not have on that forum. If that meant a hill of beans, - - then my 'seniority' on this site runs away with this debate.

But anyway, - - wordpress is fine for what it does, - - and fine for those who are happy using it. Opinions will vary . . .
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It's important to keep in mind that G+YourWorld has made it so that search results are based on your online habits. If you want a better idea of the organic SERPs, use a Chrome incognito window or a FF "private browsing" window. That way you're not using your cache to inform G of your previous searches and online behaviors.
I do the search with the private window function of FF.
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I do the search with the private window function of FF.
And yet we got very different results. I guess G is getting more and more insidious every day.
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That may indeed be a poor example, - - but it's 'random'.

Sounds like from this statement, - -



that may not be a good one to go by either, - - but admittedly, I don't have time for this to .

I brought it up as what I consider a valid debate, - - knowing in advance that the WordPress gang would attack

When I read the guys post on that forum I thought it was worth checking into. Admittedly, I didn't take into account any 'lack of seniority' he may or may not have on that forum. If that meant a hill of beans, - - then my 'seniority' on this site runs away with this debate.

But anyway, - - wordpress is fine for what it does, - - and fine for those who are happy using it. Opinions will vary . . .
I think the point is valid but my opinion is that it is due to the nature of wordpress websites having duplicate content by the manner of how they are designed. People should sink their teeth into Yoast's guide to make sure they have their bases covered, which im sure the majority of wordpress sites dont.

That could be one reason it appears google favors html.
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I like my website and get compliments on it. It's wordpress.

Customers don't know the difference. It seems most wordpress sites are easier and cleaner to navigate.
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I think a lot of people are missing the point here. Part of the reason for that is all the diversions.

Nothing wrong with wordpress, I like it myself. The point the guy was making, IMO, is that html is both cleaner and leaner, - - and can therefore overtake a competing wordpress site rather easily. That is, with all other skills being equal.

I didn't check, - - and JBM probably already knows for sure, - - but I don't doubt that most footbridge sites are done in html, with WP in it's own folder.

Either way, - - I think that's the best way to go myself.
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So your opinion is that HTML sites out perform wordpress sites?

I truly have no idea and don't know much about it. That's why I finally found a guy I can trust to do what is ultimately best for my specific situation.
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So your opinion is that HTML sites out perform wordpress sites?
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And you did well.


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Nothing wrong with wordpress, I like it myself. The point the guy was making, IMO, is that html is both cleaner and leaner, - - and can therefore overtake a competing wordpress site rather easily. That is, with all other skills being equal.
If it was that easy your site should easily overtake the 4 wordpress sites that rank in your local 7 pack for Trenton NJ Home Remodeling.
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I think a lot of people are missing the point here. Part of the reason for that is all the diversions.

Nothing wrong with wordpress, I like it myself. The point the guy was making, IMO, is that html is both cleaner and leaner, - - and can therefore overtake a competing wordpress site rather easily. That is, with all other skills being equal.

I didn't check, - - and JBM probably already knows for sure, - - but I don't doubt that most footbridge sites are done in html, with WP in it's own folder.

Either way, - - I think that's the best way to go myself.
Yeah they are but maybe not for the reason you think. I would imagine the hassle of security and the updates on 1000 or maybe even 3000 sites is quite large and not worth it. They dont want meddlers fiddling with the sites and breaking them, loading large photo files with no alt tags and bad file names.

Isolate the security, isolate the idiot contractors, keep the site safe and also light and quick.

If your building sites and handing the keys over WP would be the way to do it.
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If it was that easy your site should easily overtake the 4 wordpress sites that rank in your local 7 pack for Trenton NJ Home Remodeling.

I understand you want to keep making this about me, - - but I made my site about 4 years ago, maybe?? All hand coded, all just experimental. Never even heard of SEO, never even needed it to begin with. Read my lips, - - this isn't about me or my particular SEO skills, - - you're just creating another diversion. I'm busy either way, - - it's just not necessary. The site is a dinosaur, - - half (or more) of it won't even show on devices other than a desktop, because it's got so much flash. It hasn't even been touched in at least I'd say a year or so, and won't ever get touched again.

I'm making an html site right now to take it's place, with a wordpress folder. Not because I need a site for business to begin with, - - but because I like having one, and it bothered me enough that it's only half working to get my azz in gear to make one that does show on all devices, and make it completely RESPONSIVE while I'm at it. Who wouldn't??

Getting to page one in Trenton and surrounding area I don't see as being a problem, if that's what I choose to do. I'll have to check out who is even there now, - - I never even bothered.

Actually, though, on a side note, - - I don't even do work in Trenton, although my mailing address is Trenton, - - I live in Bordentown, it's actually not even in the same county . . .

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And to clarify my point, - - and get back to the actual subject at hand without the diversions, - - I'd easily wager that Footbridge could do an HTML site for me (or anyone) and get it on page one in Trenton within a few months, tops.
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So could Carl Tom. His sites are very well done, large and has all the on page you could put into a site.

which brings me back point I keep making, build a big site with very good on page and most all of the competition will be an afterthought.

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