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Old 05-28-2012, 03:04 PM   #1
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This guy is dead on and worth taking the time to listen to.

A few bad words here and there. It's a TED speech.

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Old 05-28-2012, 03:46 PM   #2
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Excellent video. Thanks for posting, Jason.

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I think this guy is a kook that likes to hear himself talk. So the world is not as he likes it. Why doesn't he buy the lots and build as he likes, then some one can come in back of him and bag on his ideas I can't believe I didn't see any Graffiti
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I think this guy is a kook that likes to hear himself talk. So the world is not as he likes it. Why doesn't he buy the lots and build as he likes, then some one can come in back of him and bag on his ideas I can't believe I didn't see any Graffiti
Sorry, we're talking about the continental US here not some islands we took from a foreign Country.

I should have been more clear...

If you have great big malls with full parking lots out there then that's just super!
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While I agree that he enjoys being the animated presenter, I also think he makes some solid points.

That was in '07(I think) and since then, there's been quite a big push for a good portion of his points -- growing, working, and living closer to where you need to be to live(I just didn't want to say "work", since it's not the only thing we should focus our lives around).

Something along those lines -- http://www.nrdc.org/cities/smartgrowth/solve/orenco.asp

On the whole, he's in-line with what AptPupil stated in another thread, that it's our responsibility to make the changes we want, rather than wait to accept or decline the changes that happen.

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Sorry, we're talking about the continental US here not some islands we took from a foreign Country.

I should have been more clear...

If you have great big malls with full parking lots out there then that's just super!

oahu, worst traffic in the US!

it does suck...
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Sorry, we're talking about the continental US here not some islands we took from a foreign Country.

I should have been more clear...

If you have great big malls with full parking lots out there then that's just super!
Brrr. 95 degrees out, yet so cold.
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oahu, worst traffic in the US!
it does suck...
That's what I hear yet we have groups that fight a mass transit rail system the the feds want to give us 100s of million to build
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Sorry, we're talking about the continental US here not some islands we took from a foreign Country.
And what country was that?? And the Mainland wasn't taken?


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If you have great big malls with full parking lots out there then that's just super!
That's the unique thing about where I live. I am a 15 min. walk from the worlds largest outdoor mall, a short bike ride from epic surf and a bike ride the other way is beautiful forest hiking with beautiful waterfalls. 45 mins. north is the 7 mile miracle.
Very few places can a guy go snow boarding and surfing on the same day
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Brrr. 95 degrees out, yet so cold.
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That's the unique thing about where I live. I am a 15 min. walk from the worlds largest outdoor mall, a short bike ride from epic surf and a bike ride the other way is beautiful forest hiking with beautiful waterfalls. 45 mins. north is the 7 mile miracle.
Very few places can a guy go snow boarding and surfing on the same day
You're right; it's "unique".
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that's what i hear yet we have groups that fight a mass transit rail system the the feds want to give us 100s of million to build
And what country was that?? And the mainland wasn't taken?


That's the unique thing about where i live. I am a 15 min. Walk from the worlds largest outdoor mall, a short bike ride from epic surf and a bike ride the other way is beautiful forest hiking with beautiful waterfalls. 45 mins. North is the 7 mile miracle.
Very few places can a guy go snow boarding and surfing on the same day
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I'm sorry about the response as I have always lived in the city. For those of you that have always lived in the country, I understand that growth and progress is hard and unwanted. And unorganized growth even worse. But with growth comes more work. I for fun took a trip on google street view the other day down my old hood in Fort Lauderdale Fla. down sunrise blvd. to be exact and was shocked at what I saw Man has that place changed in 25 years
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Having taken architecture and design seriously, I think this guy is spot on. Most of what we as society build today is absolute junk. We cater to the cheap consumer.

I was on our towns comprehensive committee and I tell you it is one huge uphill battle. Most people cannot see what the future should be like for their own community. They think everything is fine, don't fix what isn't broken. It's ****ing broken, I assure you.
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I've seen some seriously ugly architecture and planning in HI (kaneohe come to mind) we let profit driven idiots create problems then we have to try and clean them up. Sprawl is always pushed as creating jobs or "people have to live somewhere" We use land like a second grader uses construction paper.
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i didn't watch the whole thing, but i found some good food for thought and definitely relevant to the forum. i agree with kent when he says that so much of what we're doing these days is junk. we're a society that has placed too much emphasis on "progress" and money and what this guy is talking about is just one manifestation of that issue.
i'm from LA which is one of those rare places that dwb was talking about - surf and snow in the same day. however, it was also unfortunately developed at a time when the automobile was becoming popular. certain companies ( bought up the streetcars and converted them to buses thereby all but ensuring that the freeway (and thus the suburb) would take hold. long term sustainability and ideas like community were basically lost in the hustle to expand. the age of the levittown was born.
tough issue, but i think the root cause is that money is the most important consideration in our culture. until we fix that, we're just treating the symptom instead of the cause.
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i don't wanna live close to you jerks
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i don't wanna live close to you jerks
Oh, thank god.



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Sure he makes a few decent points...but society has evolved since the time of middle ages.

Huge cathedrals aren't being built today because we don't have slave labour anymore.

Civic centres are built for the product on the inside, not asthectics on the outside. Save that for the ball-parks and arenas that have serious dough from the sports teams they host....

I could go on, but you get my drift. This guy is one speech away from suggesting a law is written that says our roads have to be paved with gold because its looks nicer.
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What huge cathedrals were built by slave labor?
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This guy pops up from time to time. He's a professional whiner with his own version of utopia. Valid points don't really matter except that it gives him a chance to sell solutions that are even bigger problems.

Some of the ugliest, most area inappropriate buildings I've seen are funded by tax dollars, designed by architects, and excessively costly to build and maintain. Design by committee and federal/state/local requirements is churning out steaming piles - I'm not interested in going down this road any further. If someone actually builds a utopia, I might check it out and see if I'd like to live there and see what the labor market is.

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