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Old 04-20-2018, 06:47 PM   #21
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Is a $300 mouse necessary?
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Old 04-20-2018, 08:34 PM   #22
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Is a $300 mouse necessary?


Think of it as a tool
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Think of it as a tool
Don't go getting all reasonable/rationale and stuff...
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No a $300 mouse is not needed. Mine's a corded $10.99 one from WalMart, two buttons, scroll wheel.

Haven't you downloaded it yet?

Do so, go to the 3D Warehouse, and just search "kitchen" and then download anything that looks interesting to your blank model.

First thing you'll need to understand is how to explode things.
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:34 PM   #25
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Is a $300 mouse necessary?
Maybe you saw the 3D mouse that's $300, that's not the one I use personally.

This is the mouse I use with my left hand to navigate the model.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm using a gaming mouse in my right hand that was $30 four years ago.
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Maybe you saw the 3D mouse that's $300, that's not the one I use personally.

This is the mouse I use with my left hand to navigate the model.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm using a gaming mouse in my right hand that was $30 four years ago.
Those are the ones we use also, it's amazing how nice they are to work with once one gets the hang of using them. Have the right hand on the mouse and the left hand on the 3d mouse, as you change your scale, zooming in or out by pulling up or pushing (lightly) down the 3d mouse senses that and adjusts your movement scope so it's always easy to get to where you want to go.

It easily doubles or triples production time and makes it much more fun to work with the model.
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Maybe you saw the 3D mouse that's $300, that's not the one I use personally.

This is the mouse I use with my left hand to navigate the model.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm using a gaming mouse in my right hand that was $30 four years ago.
I have that one also
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Yes, you definitely want to get this mouse, when you working on the model you navigate with ease especially on larger and more complex models.
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Im sooooo behind on this program.....I do what I do with my fingers on the touch pad of the labtop. It can be aggravating. Im surprised at how well I have adapted to that.
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Im sooooo behind on this program.....I do what I do with my fingers on the touch pad of the labtop. It can be aggravating. Im surprised at how well I have adapted to that.
You sound like my Dad... It would kill me to be that inefficient.
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You sound like my Dad... It would kill me to be that inefficient.
Well Travis my generation didnt grow up with a joystick glued to our hands.

So help me out here......does this 3d mouse act solo or will I need to be using two different things in each hand? I'll buy it

I would love to do better renditions like kitchens and such, I assume doing these things utilize the sketch up warehouse for premade sizes
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Well Travis my generation didnt grow up with a joystick glued to our hands.

So help me out here......does this 3d mouse act solo or will I need to be using two different things in each hand? I'll buy it

I would love to do better renditions like kitchens and such, I assume doing these things utilize the sketch up warehouse for premade sizes
once you open them up from the warehouse you can make them any size you want by scaling them. You can open up a 24" base cabinet and make it 12", 30" or 21 3/4" it does not matter.

You can also open up dynamic items and change individual parts, but save that for much later.
The 3d mouse is very helpful as is a numeric keyboard close to your right hand. I can't imagine using a touchpad with Sketchup.
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You can do some nice stuff is sketchup if you get into it and make the use of it part of your business. I been getting clients from all over the country and did some work for customers going as far as Nova Scotia, Australia,etc as a matter a fact thinking of making plans to do this when I retire. I use both CA and Sketchup.

CA is an excellent program to do plan traces, 3D wlaktroughts and Go-To-Meeting interactions with clients all over the country and a s*^t load of more stuff.

Sketchup is great for modeling, scross section detail descriptions, schematic drawings, rendering, etc.

Now almost 20 some years later you can pretty much handle both programs with ease and whip-up any design in your sleep... and the best part about working with the 2 programs is that no matter how long you been doing this, you always learn something new.

As an example, witch Sketchup now I can take an image snap of your property from google map and I can do property water drainage evaluation and show you where you have low spots on your property, back pitch issues, etc. Did this for a few homeowners and landscaping contractors and it was right on the money. Another little thing to add to your services.

So if you in the business involving designs, layouts, I would definately invest some of you free time exploring this 2 programs and make it part of your business and offer additional services... you will be amaised how much more of additional income this will bring you. Just this winter alone, I did 18 Go-To-Meeting design sessions with customer from all over the place.

I mean between the 2 programs what you can with it, sky is the limit and the way I started with this, when I was slow, during winter, etc I would spend hours play with it, taking webinars, (one of Andie's webinars, he is very good by the way "my idol" :-))

Here is a few examples done in sketchup, pic1 is a schematic house image and pic 2 just last week did a backyard design for someone in NY.

Have fun!
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Thats definitely a great skill to develop that can even make you hire-able outside of self employment.

I know you can overlay photos or crop your renditions to them on sketch up. One day I will get there.

To be quite honest I use it more to solve construction details the day or two before I build something. What was CA?
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Thats definitely a great skill to develop that can even make you hire-able outside of self employment.

I know you can overlay photos or crop your renditions to them on sketch up. One day I will get there.

To be quite honest I use it more to solve construction details the day or two before I build something. What was CA?
Chief Architect, that is more an Architectural program, to create blueprints, elevation views, 3D views, etc also a very powerfull software, as a matter a fact many switching from AutoCad to that. I been using that since it came out and this program got a long way. It was selling at the time for $99 now its almost 3k.
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Im sooooo behind on this program.....I do what I do with my fingers on the touch pad of the labtop. It can be aggravating. Im surprised at how well I have adapted to that.
I bet it can be aggravating, surprised you haven't thrown your laptop out the window in frustration trying to model like that.

If you've been doing it this way just getting a mouse will be like going from a horse drawn buggy to an automobile. Adding the 3d connexion mouse is like turbocharging it, well worth every penny.
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Well Travis my generation didnt grow up with a joystick glued to our hands.

So help me out here......does this 3d mouse act solo or will I need to be using two different things in each hand? I'll buy it

I would love to do better renditions like kitchens and such, I assume doing these things utilize the sketch up warehouse for premade sizes
I didn't either. We weren't allowed to have video games in the house for a long time. When we did, it was quite limited. Being home schooled and living on a few acres, my parents thought our time was better spent outside, or really anything other than sitting in front of a screen. I agree with them more now than I did then.

I've got a 23" or so monitor (two of them actually) and a regular mouse plus the 3d mouse. I think it would be worth your while to give it a shot sitting at a table or desk with a mouse/3d mouse combo. You would have one in each hand.

The idea is that when navigating around the model, you use the 3d mouse and you don't have to keep changing what your cursor function is to navigate.

I am no where near Greg's level when it comes to using SU. My main use for it is cabinetry and drawings for decks, additions, etc to get a permit and plans to work off of. I know I don't make good enough use of the warehouse and other potential time saving things.
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I do framing rather easily. Just did it deck myself.

I find understanding how SU behaves in layers is a big time saver alone. Copy and arrays save me a lot of time. Even more time if I make components in advance on the side.
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You don't have to change the function everything time you want to move around the model with a regular mouse.

Click and hold the wheel to pan. Scroll the wheel to zoom. Hold shift+click down on mouse wheel to move position
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I never use a mouse away from my office desktop. I am all over the house with different pads/ folders and estimates in progress. So I just grab the laptop.

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