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Old 04-19-2018, 05:59 PM   #1
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Couple questions on Sketchup:

I would like to have a new employee become proficient with Sketchup (mostly cabinets, built-ins, furniture pieces and occasionally some floor plan stuff).

First question, do I need to get Sketchup Pro or does the free version work well enough?

Second question, do you have any links to good beginner training?
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I had several playground layouts done, a commercial kitchen conceptual plans & plans for and ADA bathroom done on the free version.

I had a highschool kid that had never seen sketchup before play around with it and in an hour he taught a young computer savvy guy I had all he needed to know to create dam near anything I wanted.

I just can't figure it out....

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Even though we have Chief Architect and 20-20 (and I can run them), I still draw by hand so I'm of no help with Sketch-up. Hoping to do some of the more detailed items on it.
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all on youtube

sketchup school

master sketchup

Acreate


there are many many others
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I’d like to learn sketch up too. I’ve used vectorworks in the past and sketchup is a different animal so I’m having trouble. I much rather draw on a computer than by hand
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I’d like to learn sketch up too. I’ve used vectorworks in the past and sketchup is a different animal so I’m having trouble. I much rather draw on a computer than by hand
I like drawing on a computer also......

I just have a hell of a time getting it off....

white out sucks on a screen.....
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Even though we have Chief Architect and 20-20 (and I can run them), I still draw by hand so I'm of no help with Sketch-up. Hoping to do some of the more detailed items on it.
Uhm...

What are those missing that you like better in Sketchup?
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Couple questions on Sketchup:

I would like to have a new employee become proficient with Sketchup (mostly cabinets, built-ins, furniture pieces and occasionally some floor plan stuff).

Conceptual drawings or shop/construction drawings?

First question, do I need to get Sketchup Pro or does the free version work well enough?

This depends on your answer to the first question. Sketchup is really good for fast conceptual 3D drawings, but pretty terrible for traditional annotated 2-d drawings. It lacks a lot of features for doing notes and controlling size/font of annotations (e.g. there's no angle dimensioning tool, ..etc). However, if you buy the Pro version, it comes with the companion tool called LayOut that you can do traditional 2D sheetsets with from your 3D Sketchup model. I haven't had the need to use LayOut, but if I had people working for me that I had to give printed drawings to, I would get the Pro version and use LayOut


Second question, do you have any links to good beginner training?

Gary Katz's ThisIsCarpentry website has a lot of really cool sketchup videos, here's a good start:
http://www.thisiscarpentry.com/2009/...sh-carpenters/

In that article, at the bottom, is a list of other places to do tutorials:

http://www.aidanchopra.com/ — The companion website to Google SketchUp 7 for Dummies. Includes video tutorials that follow the book, chapter by chapter.

http://sketchup.google.com/training/videos.html — Straight from the source. Includes great video tutorials for the beginner through advanced user.

http://www.go-2-school.com/ — The definitive website for SketchUp education. Offers training material for purchase, as well as a blog and free “webisodes” of their fantastic webcast, “The SketchUp Show.”

http://finewoodworking.taunton.com/b...gn-click-build — A blog from Fine Woodworking magazine dedicated to the use of SketchUp for the woodworker. Tends to cover more advanced techniques, and I am always amazed by their work.

http://www.youtube.com/user/toddmurdoc — A collection of short videos, covering some timesaving techniques for the carpenter who uses SketchUp.



There is also https://sketchucation.com/, which is where you can get plug-ins for Sketchup, very helpful resource. On there page, there's a section at the top under "Resources"->"Tutorials", then the option to choose "Beginner", "Intermediate", or "Advanced".

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I have only used the free version with no real issues so far.

I am a combination of self taught and YouTube videos when trying to learn how to do something I don't know how to do and then I tend to pick up on stuff in those videos and apply it to future modeling.

I have the 3D Connexion mouse which makes a huge difference in modeling speed.
The other thing I have is a gaming type mouse with about 7 programmable buttons on it.

It allows me to have the main functions I use programmed to the buttons vs hitting keys on the keyboard to change functions.
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The 3d connexion mouse is the only way to go, it really is like holding the model in your hand. Like the guys said and showed above, there's a ton of good tutorials on the net.

My main suggestion is to use components and groups............ a lot. Don't worry about having too many, one can always stick them together but once they're stuck together it can be a problem to unstick them.
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If you plan on using it for your business, get the pro version, more features, s^*t load of plugins, etc. so much more you can do with it. Been using Sketchup since 2002 together with CA x10, excellent for modeling, dynamic components, etc.
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I just call Andy. Problem solved!


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Uhm...

What are those missing that you like better in Sketchup?
1. They are really good at getting “larger view” plans done. They are very difficult to use for very tight details, breakouts, parts list and identification. I know it can be done using them, just too many workarounds – even for me, let alone a new guy.

2. I would prefer the new guy not have to learn the entirety of Chief to produce a drawing of a floating shelf bracket for my metal fabricator.
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I took a night course on Sketchup at a local community college. At the time the required text book was "Sketchup for Dummies" which is actually a pretty decent starting point. A lot of tutorials on YouTube.
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I use SU free alongside Chief Architect (V10 Premium), creating the details best understood from 3D, screencapping them from SU, and importing into CA layouts. Others have told the best way to learn it, so I won't repeat.

I attached a view to show. In one view, the Simpson ABA44 hardware is shown, and the beauty of SU is that all this kind of stuff is imported in straight from the 3D Warehouse.

SU is super for this. For floor plans, SU is no good at all.
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Agree with Willin, I use Sketchup a lot to visualize how components go together, and as a guide for when I'm in the shop. I'm really bad at seeing the order things have to go together in my mind so I have to draw it out to get it straight in my head before building. If find the x-ray view that Willin showed and the Cross-secction plane tool really invaluable for that and something I can't get from traditional 2D drafting.

Here's an example of the animation I did in sketchup to sort out a reproduction railing-post detail:
Cross-section animation


How it turned out

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And for showing clients things, SU models, from the free Sketchup Make, can be exported to Sketchfab, so they can best understand concepts before building.

This one shows the trim carpenters that will assemble the kitchen cab carcases from a CNC-cut order of parts, how to put together a basecab box.

https://sketchfab.com/models/e4b4bba...64d3f4d527c55b


And how the drawerboxes, CNC-cut also, go together. Edgebanding is on the parts when received on the job.

https://sketchfab.com/models/d4ac3b8...b728b06e67012f

Those melamine drawerboxes are rock solid, handsome, and are outfitted with Blum Tandem with Blumotion slides.

Sketchup is a very valuable tool for a builder, remodeler, or carpenter.

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I use SU free alongside Chief Architect (V10 Premium), creating the details best understood from 3D, screencapping them from SU, and importing into CA layouts. Others have told the best way to learn it, so I won't repeat.

I attached a view to show. In one view, the Simpson ABA44 hardware is shown, and the beauty of SU is that all this kind of stuff is imported in straight from the 3D Warehouse.

SU is super for this. For floor plans, SU is no good at all.
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Agree with Willin, I use Sketchup a lot to visualize how components go together, and as a guide for when I'm in the shop. I'm really bad at seeing the order things have to go together in my mind so I have to draw it out to get it straight in my head before building. If find the x-ray view that Willin showed and the Cross-secction plane tool really invaluable for that and something I can't get from traditional 2D drafting.

Here's an example of the animation I did in sketchup to sort out a reproduction railing-post detail:
Cross-section animation


How it turned out

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And for showing clients things, SU models, from the free Sketchup Make, can be exported to Sketchfab, so they can best understand concepts before building.

This one shows the trim carpenters that will assemble the kitchen cab carcases from a CNC-cut order of parts, how to put together a basecab box.

https://sketchfab.com/models/e4b4bba...64d3f4d527c55b


And how the drawerboxes, CNC-cut also, go together. Edgebanding is on the parts when received on the job.

https://sketchfab.com/models/d4ac3b8...b728b06e67012f

Those melamine drawerboxes are rock solid, handsome, and are outfitted with Blum Tandem with Blumotion slides.

Sketchup is a very valuable tool for a builder, remodeler, or carpenter.
All of this was done with Sketchup Make?
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Yes. All with SU Make, free.
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All of this was done with Sketchup Make?
Yes the animation was all done in the free version of Sketchup Make.

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