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Old 09-19-2010, 03:57 PM   #1
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Screened Porch Frame Design


A screened porch is a framed structure for which the frame is the finish, or if it isn't, the ugly underlying #2 SPF frame parts are all covered up with finish.

If the frame is thus clad in finish, it may look bulkier than it needs to be, unless bulk and detail is what one is after.

If you've any details, photos, or articles to share about how you build efficient, spare, elegant screened porch frames, I'm all ears.

Here is a detail from my file, and a render view of one I did. What do you have? I am in a design rut, and need some new ideas.
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Old 09-19-2010, 04:03 PM   #2
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Re: Screened Porch Frame Design


probably not what your looking for but i framed the windows and door with pt then clad it with cedar
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Screened porches are not real common out here. And maybe what I'm thinking is way different than what you are looking for. But what I have been involved in the framing was clear KD Redwood or Cedar. If solid beams were not available Architectural Grade Glu-Lams were used.
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I did one this summer that I previously posted awhile back. From the sounds of it your looking for a clean, kinda light and airy look. More modern from the one I did, in fact I had to match the new porch to a very old house. I think the trick is to space out the screens and give the porch height in the interior which I achived with a vaulted hip roof. My pictures are very poor, I never can get far enough back. The posts are standard 4X's and wrapped in Mirtec. Although they are bulky we spaced out the posts about 4' and gave it a high ceiling plus the vault.
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I'm intrigued about your inverted hangers. Tell us about the why's and wherefore's of doing that. Please? Just to carry the weight of the beam at the end of the cantilever?
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Re: Screened Porch Frame Design


Here are a few

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And a few more

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Have you thought of arched screens with a surrounding raised panel.... it involves some work.. but will make a statement unlike everything square and drab that is out there.... just my opinion..

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Arched screens? Sure.
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I build timber frame porches and apply my screen to the frame.
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It's the unwrapped look I think I like. The posts, the rails, the shoe rail, and the spandrel/frieze beam, all au naturale. Clear WRC.

But maybe not, I don't know. I'm floundering.

The detail shown here was a job that got done by a timberframer, and he did the posts into the beam with tenons, did a joint thing at the corners, and made the spandrel/frieze beam as a single sawn member. See the other pic.

Pegs sticking out.

What do you do for elegant simplicity?
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It's the unwrapped look I think I like. The posts, the rails, the shoe rail, and the spandrel/frieze beam, all au naturale. Clear WRC.

But maybe not, I don't know. I'm floundering.

The detail shown here was a job that got done by a timberframer, and he did the posts into the beam with tenons, did a joint thing at the corners, and made the spandrel/frieze beam as a single sawn member. See the other pic.

Pegs sticking out.

What do you do for elegant simplicity?
Curved braces
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This is not to hijack your post on the construction of a Screened porch, but just to say how great they are ! I have had one since I was young and would not be without one. I am amazed and amused at all the "fancy" homes built without the plans for one but have a big patio or deck attached. You can't use them when it is too hot, raining, or if many bugs are out-but you can with a screen porch & still enjoy the outside..........I wouldn't give 2 cents for a deck without one-been there...................

When we vacation anywhere we look for something with a screened porch. I ask all my customers with one-and they all say the same-they spend all their time out there..........................
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How is screening attached to your timber framed panels and their curved braces?
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Sorry been away from compty all day

Mr.Mike you are right-on about screen porches.

I mortise and tenon all timbers to be flush to the outside. This gives me a flat plane to attach screen and cover with a molding.
I like to use a 7x7 with a 3-1/2 x 5-1/2 brace (this is the piece that is curved) and the 3-1/2 centers on the 7x7 so it is not involved with the screen
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Thanks, Jeff.

Here are some details of what I've done. Mid-rails of 2x4 stock fix to the posts using 5" screws angled through posts, pilot holes angled up a little, begun tight to bottom of rail opposite. Little to no fastening visible.

Have not done any screen fixing using outside battens. Show us some finish if you have pics.
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Here is another option for screen attachment.
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It was great to see all the screening porch designs, some of them were really fabulous. I used to build a screened in porch for past clients. This experience gave me a unique perspective on what works and what does not when it comes to screening the porch designs.
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I have some porch pics here for ideas

http://s478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/DCP-pics/
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dproc, Thanks for posting the pics.

UpNorth, is that Revit that your using to draw?

I have a shed roof screen porch in design stage right now that I'm trying to get and prep for a winter build to have ready next year.

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