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Old 02-03-2018, 12:02 PM   #21
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100% O2 could make it very interesting, depending on how it is used. O2 is a great catalyst for fire.

With say a $7,000 scuba rebreather it could be used for hours.
Rebreathers only scrub out the CO2 to prevent CO2 poisoning. Yhe diminishing oxygen still needs to be replaced. Rebreathers do not dissassociated the carbon dioxide molecule
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Old 02-03-2018, 04:19 PM   #22
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I've been developing a combined table/chair system for roofs that people can sit at during a home invasion or flood or natural disaster. It offers the added advantage that they can dine while they are waiting to be rescued, which will be a big attraction for CEOs, and I'm even attaching dried food to the table in case they don't have time to grab food on the way to the roof.

I think this could be the next big thing in construction.



Here's a pic of someone awaiting rescue. As you can see she's safe and relaxed and even enjoying some tea.

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Rebreathers only scrub out the CO2 to prevent CO2 poisoning. Yhe diminishing oxygen still needs to be replaced. Rebreathers do not dissassociated the carbon dioxide molecule
So at 1 ATM roughly what is the duration a rebreather could be used? What would the ideal PPO2 be?

I would be really impressed if you can tell me those at 7ATM.
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If its a safe room for millennials and yuppies, make sure it is well stocked with juice boxes and tater tots.
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And cots to go napy-nap on.

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So at 1 ATM roughly what is the duration a rebreather could be used?

Depending on the volume of it's supplied O2 and the scrubbed CO2, from minutes to months.

I could do the other math, but to what end? Playing mathamatical wack-a-mole for/with you has no point.
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Depending on the volume of it's supplied O2 and the scrubbed CO2, from minutes to months.

I could do the other math, but to what end? Playing mathamatical wack-a-mole for/with you has no point.
You cherry picked my first post, then came up with some off the wall thing about scrubbers and O2 needing to be replaced. Well of course, that is how a rebreather works. So I wasn't sure what your angle was?

The point of staying alive in an enclosed environment is going to be all about having an air supply. Unfortunately there isn't much of anything that can be stored for extended lengths of time/decades without service. Redundancy comes into play.

Had a conversation with my friend the other day regarding 32% I had put into his tank about 5 years ago, as he was concerned due to the age. I had to remind him the air was over a million years old. Also had to remind him it was time to rebuild his regs.
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i just dug me an undergroud tunnel and got me a snorkel. I'm good.
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I voted no and evened the score to 4/4. My home is my safe room. I have firearms scattered about and am always close to one. I have a dog so there's no sneaking in. I haven't run into a safe room around here. But maybe they kept it secret...
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I voted no and evened the score to 4/4. My home is my safe room. I have firearms scattered about and am always close to one. I have a dog so there's no sneaking in. I haven't run into a safe room around here. But maybe they kept it secret...
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The % of homes with 'safe rooms' is inversely proportional the number of Anti-Gun laws in the area......

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The marketing I was going to try, if needed, was to buy booth space at a few gun shows, and sell the idea of adding a room to a home, with an option of a concealed "Murphy style" door or the safe door that can be purchased and look pretty awesome.

I live in gun country. Homes around here are expected to be armed. VERY LOW expectation of home invasions, or intruders, and for that matter, burglary...because although remote, neighbors are always around, and while dogs can be defeated....if you want to try and shoot one, or toss poisoned food out and then return, risks are still there, including that we video and remotely watch our home, plus alarms.

Now, that said, I think a market niche is there for the guys who want a man cave / gun safe / trophy room / theater room / barroom.....that can also be a secure safe room, complete with concrete ceiling.

The worst thing about owning some of the cool firearms any of us enjoy is the lack of ability to display them.

I am 57....when I was a kid, we had gun racks in the back windows of pickup trucks, and every kid I ran with had a .22 and probably a pump 12 gauge on the rack, while at school.

Most guys who had more then a few guns would have a wall rack in their home to display their finest weapons, or a glass fronted gun case in the den...same purpose.

But times change. No one dares to display our arms, and never carry them in sight as a routine matter....I can't remember the last gun rack I saw in an old pickup, and we have an old gun cabinet in the storage unit...just haven't taken the time to haul it off. Gun safes are the order of the day, and even though I have a top quality safe, I expect I could get into it in minutes with the tools I have in my shop...but safe rooms are different.

That is why I think there is a niche market for such rooms in new builds and as additions to homes. Burglars won't know if dimensions on a home match with what they find if they break in.

Had Hillary won. I would have pushed the idea further, including the manufacture of sliding "pocket" style steel safe doors.
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I don't think any area is safe any more. some better than others for sure but this opioid addiction and synthetic drugs has people doing things normal people would never attempt or dream of.
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Now, that said, I think a market niche is there for the guys who want a man cave / gun safe / trophy room / theater room / barroom.....that can also be a secure safe room, complete with concrete ceiling.
Jay, I think you’ve got a winner right there in that sentence. The only problem I see is with guys like me who would lock their wife and kids out. No matter what impending doom was about to happen, they’re not allowed in my man cave.
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Most guys would love to have their friends over and play pool, or watch the games, or just have a few drinks....and be in their trophy room.

I have some neat old firearms that I would love to have on the wall...but that wall would have to be a secure room.

Most guys I know have a shop or their garage is their dedicated man cave, but they are not secure enough for keeping your best and choicest trophies in. And most garages are not comfortable enough to hang out in except in mild weather. My shop is not air conditioned. And it is to work in, not hang out in.
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Other than probably using some foam as interior formwork, I think Joasis is on to something.

The fire resistant 'vaults' I've built were all for wealthy male collectors of valuable objects--Under the right conditions, one's insurance premium reductions could pay for theft and fire resistant storage/displays..

Thus working with high end specialty insurance agents and gun investors/collectors seems to be a no-brainer

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