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Old 08-16-2013, 07:56 PM   #21
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Nope, can't do that.
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If you don't want seams, I don't see any other way but skinning and site-spraying the sides... just have it prepped ahead...

Other option is if you are doing furniture grade, you could add a base to the sides for the unit to sit on that it inserts into... lift and slide after securing it to floor... fill and site spray the seam (or touch-up brush)...

You could also use the side-panel option, but one other thing you could add is a decorative trim on the corners...

You could also Increase the crown molding size and box/slide it into place...
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I entered a rise of 96-1/2" a run of 25-5/16", returns a diagonal of 99-3/4". That is how I figure the diagonal.

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You mean a rise of 96 1/2.

You can't have the opposite and the hypotenuse the same length unless the adjacent side is zero. Then all you have is two overlapping lines.

Plus you are only thinking 2D.
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OK, so cut out the floor under where the adjoining cabinets will be, stand it up, slide it over, repair floor, put in the rest of the cabs. If the joists go the right way

Could make it easy for plumbing...
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That'll get my gears turning tonight.
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You mean a rise of 96 1/2.

You can't have the opposite and the hypotenuse the same length unless the adjacent side is zero. Then all you have is two overlapping lines.

Plus you are only thinking 2D.
Yep, miss typed the rise. I have fixed it.

2D or 3D the hypotenuse is the same. The width does not affect the diagonal.

Can you leave the back off just the upper cabinet, slot the ceiling, stand the cab up then install the back on the upper? You may have to stand the cab then rotate it in place depending on joist direction.

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I'm doubting the sheetrocker would want me to do that.
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All in pieces, all prefinished, came out OK
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Stained vs painted. I wouldn't care much with a stained cabinet. You can hide the joints pretty well. With painted, especially white, you see everything.

What I'll end up doing is gluing up the FF but not the removable side. Put pocket screws in the bottom side of the deck and the topside of the top. Paint the cabinet and then put it apart at each step so I don't get a thick bridge of paint over the FF joint. After I install it I'll fill what gap/crack remains with crayon or blendal stick. It'll be hard to see the joint, but an experienced eye will catch it.
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Stained vs painted. I wouldn't care much with a stained cabinet. You can hide the joints pretty well. With painted, especially white, you see everything.

What I'll end up doing is gluing up the FF but not the removable side. Put pocket screws in the bottom side of the deck and the topside of the top. Paint the cabinet and then put it apart at each step so I don't get a thick bridge of paint over the FF joint. After I install it I'll fill what gap/crack remains with crayon or blendal stick. It'll be hard to see the joint, but an experienced eye will catch it.
Leo, if you are that concerned about where the panel meets up with the face-frame, why not make it part of the design and use a v-groove bit...



It would eliminate the issue, make it easy to assemble... problem solved... very common on painted cabs...
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Install it in pieces and then paint it (or re-paint) in place
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Leo, if you are that concerned about where the panel meets up with the face-frame, why not make it part of the design and use a v-groove bit...



It would eliminate the issue, make it easy to assemble... problem solved... very common on painted cabs...
I know the bit. Not happening.
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I know the bit. Not happening.
Not a fan of it myself (never used it, just have seen it on many painted cabs over the years)... just trying to give you options since apparently you can't spray onsite, which is really the answer... skin in and spray it after assembly.... I gave you other options, but no response on those... there's not much you could do beyond these considering materials choices and site conditions...

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Ya, I know. Stuck with assembling it on site. It'll look fine, just hate dealing with assembly on site when I can do it more efficiently in the shop.
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Will there be room to get in there to install pocket screws on the top? 3" space 25" away, angled up might be tricky
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4" top rail that has a 3/4" top at the bottom of the rail leaves 3 1/4" of space to play in. Shouldn't be an issue.
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